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  1. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    Just now, PackAttack said:

    There is a huge difference in travel mileage for Lufkin between this new 7-5A DI and districts 9-5A DI and 11-5A DI down South of Lufkin.  UIL did not do Lufkin a service at all, and there is room for us in either one of those district to the South.

    Can Coach Quick not petition this? That would seem like the logical choice. Fans don't deserve this another 2 years. 

  3. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    1 minute ago, LufkinPack said:

    Exactly. Ain’t no way anybody can justify us being in 7-5A when literally district 9 has space and is so much closer to us. 

    And it has nothing to do with the competition. I think we're going to be more then competitive. This is all about traveling on a Friday night and then having to drive back just to watch my kid play in person. The UIL is trash for this and Quick needs to petition to play in 11-5A 

  8. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    2 hours ago, PackAttack said:

    Stepp knows people in the UIL, he has been around them long enough to know their tendencies, and see how the school landscapes with enrollments and new schools have changed since the previous realignment.  Even we can be sort of close but not exact. With Lufkin right smack in the middle of Deep East Texas, we will always be a fill in school North or South to achieve a 7 or 8 team district for the UIL.   We are not a football powerhouse or even a top contender as a program, Lufkin gets no special considerations from the UIL.  In fact, don't think anyone in East Texas does if they are a 5A DI or 6A program.  There is just nothing else to do with us. 

    Someone ask me the other day about why most of the teams Lufkin plays in all other sports are 5A DII schools, why can't we play those same folks in football.  Well, it's because there are no divisions in 5A in all other UIL sports played, if your 5A you can play each other in a district, just like 6A football.  Football is divided in 5A DI and 5A DII districts by enrollment.

    For example: During the 2014 and 2015 seasons Lufkin played in an East Texas district with Nacogdoches, John Tyler, Whitehouse, Lindale, Ennis, Jacksonville and Corsicana.  Lufkin did not dominate, they didn't win any State Championships, in fact they finished 5-6 and 7-4 respectively, losing to Longview both years in the 1st round of the playoffs. It wouldn't be much different today if they were put into a similar East Texas district with Tyler, Marshall, Nacogdoches, Pine Tree, Whitehouse and a couple more.  Not sure they would win more or less than they have the past 3 or 4 years.  Anyway, that's not the way the UIL works things for football, and Lufkin will be required to travel long distances no matter where they end up to play the next two seasons. Until a 7A comes a long or the unlikely occurrence Lufkin drops to 5A DII (the enrollment would need to drop 257 students) , this is where Lufkin is for the foreseeable future.

    I don't have a problem going to Houston. It's just Dallas makes 0 sense. 

  13. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    5 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

    What is the darn problem with being able to build a decent offensive line??  We have had questionable play there more years under Cook than they have had good O-line. When was the last good OL at Lufkin? 2017 ??  Someone told me they build the OL out of the leftovers from the kids they don't pick to play on the D Line.  The D-line gets first pick of that talent.  Is that true?

    The kids want to play defensive line more so then offensive line is usually why. 

  14. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    4 hours ago, PackAttack said:

    Congratulation to both of those young men. The biggest question for me, will their talent be used wisely in 2024. It's a legit observation. 

    I think the defense is going to be tough for offenses to deal with. Returning 9 starters and another 3-4 kids with experience. The offense will have the weapons but the offensive line is the question mark. Im optimistic that they will have a good season. 

  16. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    13 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

    That is good news. Evan had 30 tackles from the secondary last year for the Pack D as a junior.

    He's a solid football player and just as good of a kid too. That gives the 25 class 2 kids with FBS offers. With Preston it's just a matter of time. Also Gavin, Hooper and Alexander will all likely pick up FBS offers at some point. So in all that will be 6 kids and I expect a few others to sign to play at some level. 

  18. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    1 hour ago, PackAttack said:

    There is no secret the metro areas, especially around the DFW  and Conroe- The Woodlands -Houston areas carry a big sway over a rural area like East Texas, where there are only two 6A teams and two 5A DI schools total for football.  Our East Texas area football landscape is dominated mostly by 5A DII classifications down.  Lufkin and Tyler are in "no mans land" when it comes to the UIL and where they get located every two years. Longview is now back into 6A with Tyler Legacy, even they get crammed into the DFW East Metro area.  It's a no win for East Texas schools at the 6A and 5A DI levels.  

    It's so funny that in all other sports, the UIL will pair Lufkin with schools who mostly play football in 5A DII.  The enrolments sure doesn't matter to the UIL when it comes to all other sports.  

    They need to do away with the pre split

  20. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    On 1/12/2024 at 6:04 PM, PackAttack said:

    IF Polk had not committed to the NFL draft, was hoping he would Transfer to Texas, now that Ewers is staying and Manning is sitting in the wings.

    Sark is building something special at Texas. It is becoming the school that elite kids want to play at. They're absolutely killing it in the transfer portal. Texas has a legitimate chance to win the SEC year one and they probably should. 

  23. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    On 1/9/2024 at 10:04 AM, PackAttack said:

    DCTF MOCK 2024-2025 5A DI District Alignments: by Matt Stepp

    8-5A DI:

    Lufkin 

    Beaumont Westbrook

    New Caney Porter

    Port Arthur Memorial

    Crosby

    Beaumont United

    Humble Kingwood Park

    It's just absurd to me that they would put them in 8 instead of 9. It comes down to do you wanna split Austin area or Houston area to play Dallas in bi district. You will never convince me that someone from within the UIL doesn't have a personal  incentive for certain schools.

  24. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    22 hours ago, PackAttack said:

    The problem is if they had a decent OL coach here, then the OL would not be a problem. Sure miss Mr. Tommy Early as OLC, he could still be there, as could Pat Nicholson. I've talked to both. If people only knew how they were moved out, because they were deemed not to fit the good ol boy system. Guys you have no idea. The OL situation will be a mess until they get someone there who can produce a good line.

    Two really good coaches. Coach Guzman is still there but coaches Tennis now. He was a solid RB coach back in the day. 

  25. 2024 LUFKIN PANTHER VARSITY FOOTBALL DISCUSSION TOPIC

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    22 hours ago, PackAttack said:

    Another year and another topic change.  The discussion of the 2024 Lufkin Panther Football possibilities are before us.  

    More to add to this later.  The 2024 Panthers will have the cream of the crop from the last two years on the defensive side of the ball. Many changes will happen on the offensive side after the graduation of Kedren Young, and a new QB will fill the QB position after the past two and a half years led by T J Hammond.

    As Purple Nation has stated, the defense can be an elite group in 2024, one of the best at Lufkin in many years.  

    New faces?  We will get to see what Javion Johnson can do at QB. See the duo of  DeMarkus Chinn and Gavin Phillips at RB.  Will the OL be improved???  I only see one starter from 2023 coming back, Mathew Chavez.  Do not know if Geo Villegas returns or not, he was sidelined all last year after starting as a sophomore.  There will be four starting WR  returning, Kevo Taylor, KeAndre Hooper, Kriseam Preston and Quincy Coutee.   If Johnson develops, and (Green) can find a way to get them the ball, good things will happen. Johnson is a legit RPO QB which is something the O has not had for 2 1/2 seasons. The KEY IMO is the O-Line.

    Many player faces will remain the same, and new contributors will emerge.  The Panther staff to this point remains unchanged, not much needs to be said about that at this time. To be clear, I personally have not changed my mind about the coaching on the offensive side of the ball.  We just finished three seasons with a P5 RB going to Notre Dame and failed to make the playoffs, that's all I need to say.

    As I have mentioned the defense will be loaded with nine starters returning.  Jordan McClendon, Zion Williams, Elijah Alexander and Kaleb Preston return on the D-line, Kaden Hooper, Juan Laura, Keithan Davis, Ross Byrd and Baily Murphy return at LB .  In the secondary Evan Young, Kenneth Timmons, Michael Mosley, KeShawn Waters, Jacoriance White and Amontia Hatton all return for 2024.

    Not sure yet who will contribute from the 2023 JV or Freshman groups, there is talent there as well.  Hope it comes in the form of really good O-lineman that can knock some holes in the opposing defensive lines. 

    There will be more information coming out later.  We need to solidify the actual U I L district placement the next two seasons ,  see a finalized schedule for 2024 and there will probably be a few more Panthers who will sign scholarships.   There will be stuff to talk about and certainly expectations to be had , especially with the amount of talent returning for 2024. There will be Spring football and 7 on 7 competitions leading up to another year.  The more realistic question for success is not the talent in Lufkin, we know that lies in the ability of Coach Quick and his staff to get that job accomplished.  Make your own judgements there,  I've already exited the train.  

    I think it will be an interesting 2024 season with the amount of talent returning, playing in a new district, just seeing a new mix of players and chemistry.  Expectations?  There should be this year, then again I haven't decided yet how i plan to approach the season as a fan. With the season ending results this program has endured since 2017, the only way I make it today is if I look upon a new season with the innocence of a fresh laid egg.  It ain't easy.

     

    Then you have several kids on defense that didn't start that saw plenty of action or either started at least 1 game during the year. The defense if going to be really good next season. If they can get from 23 ppg to around 17 ppg they will have a really good season. We're definitely upgrading the QB position with Jayvion. Gio is expected to return at LT for his Sr season. Gavin is not as good as Kedren but he is certainly a D1 talent at RB and Chinn is probably the hardest working kid in the program. Not worried about RB. OL is the concern for me but with all these WRs coming back we probably will throw it a lot more.

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