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I've read where QB/ATH Reggie McNeal JR (6-0, 175) has hit the HS Transfer Portal and is moving on from Houston Heights has enrolled and will play his Senior year at South Oak Cliff in 2024.  As a Junior in 2023 McNeal was All District, he passed for 1450 yards and rushed for 415 and 8 TDs.

The article, written by Greg Powers in DCTF, tells about his father Reggie as the 4th leading passing QB in A&M history with 6992 yards, and was on the cover of DCTF in 2005.  Says absolutely nothing about him playing at Lufkin, or winning a State Title at Lufkin in 2001. 

South Oak Cliff also recently had four-star 2025 DE Kamauryn Morgan (6'4, 230) transfer and enroll from Red Oak . In case you missed it back on February 7th, South Oak Cliff had 32 football players signed national letters of intent to play in college.  You read that right Thirty Two players.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/16314165/Reggie-McNeal-Jr

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3 hours ago, 99_Pack said:

Has a date been set for the spring game yet?

Last day of school is 5/22, so the game would need to be on the Mon 13th or Tues 14th. Just a guess.

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Spring practice is just that to me. It all looks the same for me from year to year.  Too early to see anything substantial for an evaluation.  I think they will be a really good team, then again I thought that last year too, so don't listen to me.  Playing against each other is not the best way IMO to evaluate a team. Not sure what kind of offseason some have had (a few people have told me it has been a very productive offseason)  or if players are going to camps this summer or not. Someone else who comes in here probably can comment more to that aspect. Everyone looks in top shape to me. That DL is impressive. 

QB Johnson, has the wheels and the arm to be a decent QB. Wheels are good, if you are not running into the back of your blocking, or stutter stepping or cutting back and forth too much.  Plant your foot and go. Some have that vision, some don't.  Consistency with throws are always key, holding the ball too long or not long enough are all areas that make a good QB.  All of that was my assessment of him last year and the need for a lot of good experience.  Frankly, they should have allowed Johnson to get all that experience last year by fire and trial.  We would have been no worse off than the 6th place we finished.  He will get that opportunity and experience this year. There are a couple others too, don't know who they are, they look very capable at QBs.  

You just can't tell much right now, big D-Line and decent size O-Line.  I think there are only two returning starter on the OL.  Hope we find a bigger Center, no knock on the kid who played last year, tough as nails they tell me, BUT @ 170 lb up against a 280 lb NT? You get the picture.  Will they be better than the last couple of years? They are using the same scheme they do every year under Cook.  Nothing is too different about the offense.  The O have some awesome skill players, how will they be used?  That's the big question with Green and his offensive system. It's about as bland as a saltine cracker.  My Panther fan neighbor down the street calls him 50/50 Green.  LOL  My son years ago used to call him Bubble Screen Green. Not so much now.  All catchy names, I've never been able to come up with any kind of a nick name, except I know he always runs it up the middle on the first play of every game. Same play! LOL

The D is returning a bunch of guys from last season, many who have secured one to multiple scholarship offers to the next level.  This group will be the strength of this team and have size on the DL and LB positions, their only loss there will be Isaiah Menefee and Cooper Conrad  Will be hard to run on this group.  Secondary is solid where they return almost everyone but Amarion Campbell and Brian Rogers.  There were so many kids rotated in and out last year, so many coming back with experience.  There is plenty of depth on the defensive side.  The Waters brothers, one on defense and one on offense will be two Panthers to watch the next couple years. 

RB position looks different this year after Young's departure to Notre Dame, but I bet these two guys will play at least one playoff game before they leave as Panthers. Young never had the opportunity in his three year stint at Lufkin.  Chinn and Phillips will be there, maybe you will see Hooper and Waters there occasionally too.  There are 2 or 3 other RB, do not know their names who are up from the JV or Freshmen team last year.  Maybe they are JV players this year, anyway the RB positions are not lacking.

Kicking game is good, Hansard is back with a couple others. Kicking game will be fine as long as he is healthy.

Had a buddy of mine get so excited one time after a Spring game, back in like 2014 or 2015 ??  The offense was on fire, everything went right and he came away declaring "Man, we are going to State this year!".  We had a decent year I think (7-4), but we lost 31-10 to Longview in the 1st round in Tyler. He has never been back to a Spring game since. LOL

Practice is Practice, even me,  many years ago use to make a big deal about watching Practice.  You kind of forget that it's pretty repetitious as a player too. It's all about getting the kinks worked out after 4 months of offseason work. I figure most positions are filled, some may still be vying to win a spot in Fall, other kids are trying to make an impression. Spring practice is just a chance for guys to prove they deserve to be a starter or get more playing time when the season begins. You hope no one get hurt in the process. No one will remember Spring ball game, I won't, but the sports people will surely remember how the 2024 ends!  

More later. If not, I'll be out at ABE on the May 13th, God willing, to see what possibilities are before us for 2024.

 

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Ja'Lynn Polk - (Texas Tech, University of Washington) drafted by New England, joins and elite group of players from Lufkin who played in the NFL

Dez Bryant - Oklahoma St -(Dallas Cowboys 2010-2017, New Orleans 2018, Baltimore Ravens 2020)

Keke Coutee - Texas Tech - (Houston Texans 2018-2020, Indianapolis Colts 2021-2022, New Orleans Saints and Miami Dolphins 2023, DC Defenders 2024)

Rex Hadnot - U of H - (Miami 2004-2007, Cleveland 2009-2009, Arizona 2010-2011, San Diego 2012)

Sparky Hamilton - Arkansas- (Dallas Desperados 2004, Green Bay 2005 * )

Terrance Kiel - Texas A&M - San Diego chargers (2003-2006)

Reggie McNeal - QB Texas A&M - (WR  Cincinnati Bengals 2006, Toronto Argonauts 2007-2010, Calgary Stampeders and Edmonton Eskimos 2011)

Don Mulhbach - Texas A&M - ( Drafted Baltimore 2004, Center Detroit Lions  2004-2020,  Special Assistant to Detroit Team President, 2021- present)

Anthony Coleman -  Baylor  (Dallas) 1987

Everett Little - U of H (Tampa Bay) 1976)

Jorvorskie Lane - Texas A&M ( West Texas Roughnecks  2010, Orlando Predators 2011, Miami Dolphins 2012-2013, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2014-2015) 

Jacoby Shepard  - Oklahoma State - (St Louis 2000-2001, Houston Texans, Green Bay 2002, New York and Detroit 2003, Oakland 2004, Edmonton Eskimos, Calgary Stampeders 2005, Dallas Desperados - Utah Blaze 2006-2007, Georgia Force 2008)

Carrington Byndom - Texas (Carolina 2014 -2015, San Diego, Arizona and Baltimore 2015-2016)

Bruce Alexander - SFA (Detroit !989-1991 and Miami 1992-1993) 

Bryan Gilmore - Midwestern State - (Arizona 2000-2004, Miami 2004-2005, San Francisco 2006-2007, Seattle 2008) 

Denvis Manns - West Texas State - Manns attended the Dallas  training camps in both 1999 and 2001 as a free agent. He played in NFL Europe for Barcelona in 2000 and Frankfurt in 2001.

Joe Robb - TCU - (Philadelphia Eagles 1959-1960, St Louis Cardinals 1961-1967, Detroit Lions 1968-1971) 

T J Turner - U of H - (Miami Dolphins) 1986-1992

Benny Barnes - Stanford (Dallas Cowboys 1972-1982) Barnes was only born in Lufkin, did not play in Lufkin.

Jadarian Taylor - UTEP - (XFL Winnipeg Blue Bombers 2023)

Erick McCoy - Texas A&M (New Orleans) 2019 - present (2024)

Ken Houston - U of H (Washington Redskins 1973-1980 - Houston Oilers 1967-1972) 

Jeffery Rogers - Trinity Valley - Texas A&M - Kingsville ( Tampa Bay 1995, NY Giants 1996)

Did I miss anyone?

 

 

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Just looking at all of those names, some top rated athletes in that group. If you just think a minute, it's hard to realize that Lufkin only has played for and won only one State Title.   Especially that group from 1998 to now.

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Another great Lufkin Panther passes through the football portal headed to the NFL.

Polk finished as one of the best wideouts in the history of Lufkin football, that includes NFL standouts Dez Bryant and Keke Coutee. Finished his career at Lufkin ranked second all-time in school history in both receptions (131) and receiving yards (2,412,  also third with 24 career touchdown catches. As a senior in 2019, had 54 receptions for 1,050 yards and nine touchdowns before an injury ended his season, those 1,050 receiving yards were fourth-most total in Lufkin history. This earned Ja Lynn third team All-State honors from the Texas Sports Writers Association and the District 8-5A Offensive MVP after team finished 9-2 winning the district title. Polk broke his own school's single-game receiving yards record with 244 vs. Tomball High as a junior in 2018, totaled 695 receiving yards and nine touchdowns off 37 catches, then first-team All-District 8-5A in 2018. Ja Lynn had 40 receptions for 667 yards and six touchdowns as a sophomore in 2017 with an honorable mention All-District 12-6A accolades that year that helped lead Lufkin to the state quarterfinal round of the playoffs as a sophomore. He ranked the No. 67 wide receiver in the country and the No. 49 player in Texas by Rivals … ranked at No. 69 nationally among wide receivers by 247Sports .  He sure excelled at Texas Tech and Washington. I believe he has a chance to do well in NE or wherever he can play football.   Congratulation!  A 2nd Round pick is still impressive.

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Football was in the air Thursday in Lufkin as the Panthers hit the field for spring practice.

Lufkin is coming off its third-straight season of missing the playoff, but the Panthers are confident they have what it takes to make a run at state next season.

Lufkin head coach Todd Quick said the Panthers will have 48 seniors next season, a group they’ll lean on heavily.

Coach Quick said every spot is open on the team and he’s excited about his quarterbacks who both will bring a dual-threat element to the Panthers offense next season.

The Panthers’ spring game will be on May 13th at 6:00 p.m. at Abe Martin Stadium.

 
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Coach Todd Quick talks about Ja Lynn Polk being drafted to the NFL and what he meant to Lufkin as a Panther player.

https://www.ketk.com/sports/lufkin-native-jalynn-polk-drafted-by-new-england-patriots-in-nfl-draft/

 

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3 hours ago, PackAttack said:

Football was in the air Thursday in Lufkin as the Panthers hit the field for spring practice.

Lufkin is coming off its third-straight season of missing the playoff, but the Panthers are confident they have what it takes to make a run at state next season.

Lufkin head coach Todd Quick said the Panthers will have 48 seniors next season, a group they’ll lean on heavily.

Coach Quick said every spot is open on the team and he’s excited about his quarterbacks who both will bring a dual-threat element to the Panthers offense next season.

The Panthers’ spring game will be on May 13th at 6:00 p.m. at Abe Martin Stadium.

 

There is no doubt this 2024 team is loaded. In all honesty they shouldn't lose a single game on the schedule with 48 Seniors and all that talent. We all realize that's the way it should be around here this year.  However, this program has missed the playoffs three straight years, in fact they haven't made any noise in the playoffs to remember since 2017.

So how are we to view this year? With 48 seniors, what is there left for the 2025 team?  Quick has not built much of a playoff contending program here in Lufkin.  You could probably take a group of ex-Panther players around town and they could probably coach these 2024 guys to the 3rd round without a problem.  Let's be honest.  Guess I'm in a place of little faith and want to see it really happen, not just hear or talk about it.  There should be zero excuses for success this year. 

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3 hours ago, PackAttack said:

There is no doubt this 2024 team is loaded. In all honesty they shouldn't lose a single game on the schedule with 48 Seniors and all that talent. We all realize that's the way it should be around here this year.  However, this program has missed the playoffs three straight years, in fact they haven't made any noise in the playoffs to remember since 2017.

So how are we to view this year? With 48 seniors, what is there left for the 2025 team?  Quick has not built much of a playoff contending program here in Lufkin.  You could probably take a group of ex-Panther players around town and they could probably coach these 2024 guys to the 3rd round without a problem.  Let's be honest.  Guess I'm in a place of little faith and want to see it really happen, not just hear or talk about it.  There should be zero excuses for success this year. 

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On 4/27/2024 at 9:47 AM, PackAttack said:

 

Ja'Lynn Polk - (Texas Tech, University of Washington) drafted by New England, joins and elite group of players from Lufkin who played in the NFL

Dez Bryant - Oklahoma St -(Dallas Cowboys 2010-2017, New Orleans 2018, Baltimore Ravens 2020)

Keke Coutee - Texas Tech - (Houston Texans 2018-2020, Indianapolis Colts 2021-2022, New Orleans Saints and Miami Dolphins 2023, DC Defenders 2024)

Rex Hadnot - U of H - (Miami 2004-2007, Cleveland 2009-2009, Arizona 2010-2011, San Diego 2012)

Sparky Hamilton - Arkansas- (Dallas Desperados 2004, Green Bay 2005 * )

Terrance Kiel - Texas A&M - San Diego chargers (2003-2006)

Reggie McNeal - QB Texas A&M - (WR  Cincinnati Bengals 2006, Toronto Argonauts 2007-2010, Calgary Stampeders and Edmonton Eskimos 2011)

Don Mulhbach - Texas A&M - ( Drafted Baltimore 2004, Center Detroit Lions  2004-2020,  Special Assistant to Detroit Team President, 2021- present)

Anthony Coleman -  Baylor  (Dallas) 1987

Everett Little - U of H (Tampa Bay) 1976)

Jorvorskie Lane - Texas A&M ( West Texas Roughnecks  2010, Orlando Predators 2011, Miami Dolphins 2012-2013, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2014-2015) 

Jacoby Shepard  - Oklahoma State - (St Louis 2000-2001, Houston Texans, Green Bay 2002, New York and Detroit 2003, Oakland 2004, Edmonton Eskimos, Calgary Stampeders 2005, Dallas Desperados - Utah Blaze 2006-2007, Georgia Force 2008)

Carrington Byndom - Texas (Carolina 2014 -2015, San Diego, Arizona and Baltimore 2015-2016)

Bruce Alexander - SFA (Detroit !989-1991 and Miami 1992-1993) 

Bryan Gilmore - Midwestern State - (Arizona 2000-2004, Miami 2004-2005, San Francisco 2006-2007, Seattle 2008) 

Denvis Manns - West Texas State - Manns attended the Dallas  training camps in both 1999 and 2001 as a free agent. He played in NFL Europe for Barcelona in 2000 and Frankfurt in 2001.

Joe Robb - TCU - (Philadelphia Eagles 1959-1960, St Louis Cardinals 1961-1967, Detroit Lions 1968-1971) 

T J Turner - U of H - (Miami Dolphins) 1986-1992

Benny Barnes - Stanford (Dallas Cowboys 1972-1982) Barnes was only born in Lufkin, did not play in Lufkin.

Jadarian Taylor - UTEP - (XFL Winnipeg Blue Bombers 2023)

Erick McCoy - Texas A&M (New Orleans) 2019 - present (2024)

Ken Houston - U of H (Washington Redskins 1973-1980 - Houston Oilers 1967-1972) 

Jeffery Rogers - Trinity Valley - Texas A&M - Kingsville ( Tampa Bay 1995, NY Giants 1996)

Did I miss anyone?

 

 

Former Lufkin and University of Houston OL spent time in Jets/Redskins camp. I don't believe he ever made the active roster. And former Lufkin and UTEP DL spent time in Seattle camp. 

https://www.lufkinisd.org/2023/10/18/lhs-alumni-former-nfl-player-speaks-to-lms-staff-and-students-on-believing-in-your-dreams/

Fun fact some of you may know or have forgotten. Former KC Chiefs return man Dante "The Human Joystick" Hall was born here in Lufkin. And attended school here up through elementary, before moving to Houston area. 

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10 hours ago, PackAttack said:

There is no doubt this 2024 team is loaded. In all honesty they shouldn't lose a single game on the schedule with 48 Seniors and all that talent. We all realize that's the way it should be around here this year.  However, this program has missed the playoffs three straight years, in fact they haven't made any noise in the playoffs to remember since 2017.

So how are we to view this year? With 48 seniors, what is there left for the 2025 team?  Quick has not built much of a playoff contending program here in Lufkin.  You could probably take a group of ex-Panther players around town and they could probably coach these 2024 guys to the 3rd round without a problem.  Let's be honest.  Guess I'm in a place of little faith and want to see it really happen, not just hear or talk about it.  There should be zero excuses for success this year. 

The defense should be really good. I know the secondary had some lapses last year. But I like the potential of that unit. I would like the defense more, if they can figure out a way to play Alexander and Zion at the same time. Skill positions has more than enough to get it done, as long as Green puts them in a position to do so.

Unfortunately, I feel like we are a year behind. Which is a bit disappointing when you think about how much talent this group has. I would feel a bit more confident, had we been able to squeeze out a few playoff games the last two years. That's what drives up and coming teams forward. You take that playoff experience from the previous year to help set up the next. I can see us getting back into the playoffs this year. Just wish we could've done last year, and looked to build on that this year.

I agree about Johnson at Qb. Kid has a ton of potential, but very limited varsity experience. He'll have to spend a portion of the year getting his feet wet as the starter. Wish he could've taken the majority of those lumps last year. I could be wrong about this one way or another. But I think this year is the year we play Longview close. I won't go as far as to say win. Quick and Green have done nothing to indicate they have any idea on how to beat Longview. I think a close game could give the kids confidence moving forward.

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7 hours ago, timeout! said:

Quick and Green have done nothing to indicate they have any idea on how to beat Longview.

This, especially with Green. He would call the same plays whether it were Longview or Diboll. ;)

 

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