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Longview has a better program than Lufkin, from top to bottom. I mentioned how well their sub varsities team play a couple of weeks ago. You get the same effort and style of play at all levels. They expect to win and represent Longview brand of ball. It may not be varsity, but carries over when they get there. It's rinse and repeat in a good way. Not the rinse and repeat we have here. Many of us knew this game would be a test for Lufkin. Longview was gonna put that mirror in our face and show us who we are. We were punched in the face and didn't respond. So many things we can talk about. Our offense is easy to defend for a program like Longview. Those guys tackle well and not gonna just let you run all over the field on them. You can get away with that stuff against Nac and Legacy. That AMC game should've been warning sign for Lufkin. Our offense takes a big dip against better coached team. We can only expect Kedren to do so much. The passing window become a lot smaller and the Qb is forced to make decisions a lot faster. All of those things lead to mistakes and turnovers. It's been my opinion for many years, that Lufkin should scrap that watered down version of the spread and start over. Our defense was hit and miss. They started out well and got a key top on the first drive. But then fell apart as the game went on. Too many miscues in the secondary and they never figured out how to stop Longview long enough to get off the field. Tutt and crew always came up with a play when needed. Defense didn't get any favors from our offense either. There was a discussion about Tutt vs Hammonds. Most of us agreed that Hammonds is a better Qb. I think that still stands. BUT..Tutt fits in a system that allows him to be much more successful in what he is asked to do vs what Hammonds is in ours. He plays within himself and executes that offense well. The run game and offensive line give him the chance for PA passes and bootlegs for easy reads. Their defense does the rest. He won't have to put up a ton of points against most teams. Next week will be another gut check for Lufkin. We will prob be without Zion and maybe a couple other key players. Lufkin better figure something out something out Quick..PUN intended..or this thing can start to unravel pretty fast. We have some talented players this year. But it's gonna take a lot more than that to get this right. Lets see if the coaches can rally the guys and get them ready for another big game. Forney will go after our throats next Friday.

Only time will tell how far Longview will go. I know their team has been consistent and will not fold like a deck of cards. King will have his team prepared and will be hard out for anyone they face. A large portion of their fans don't really consider us a marque game anymore. They didn't bring a big crowd to ABE last year. And I saw a lot empty seats on their side last night. They look at us the same way they do Marshall or kinda how we see NAC.

Anyone know why Gavin is not at the game??

Fish vs Longview for anyone interested.

Kinda funny when you think about it. W. Mesquite has a smaller spread vs Forney than we do against Longview. I’m ready for this game. If there was ever a time to bring back some of that old Pack swagger, this is it. Let’s get the Lufkin mean streak back going. We been in the basement too long. Let this be our coming out party. Go Pack!

Whoever said she ask harder questions than LDN may be right. 😁 King may have Quick number, but most of the games have been competitive. Quick has shown he can go head to head with King, especially when we have a little extra talent. The last two years are outliers more than anything else. I say we get back on track and have a classic Longview vs Lufkin battle.

I have a good feeling about Friday night. The two best players on both sides of the ball play hard and won't be intimidated. Our secondary is young, but they can play and won't back down. And we have some Wrs that can go get the ball. We have most of what we need to make it a contest. I don't see a 34 pt blowout. Lufkin will have to start knocking off some of these elite programs, before anyone respects us. Thats all it that matters. Can you beat the best of the best. This game could be the turning point for our program.

https://www.ktre.com/2023/09/12/lufkin-coach-ready-longview/ It could just be me. I never played for Quick, but he doesn't sound like the type of coach that will get his guys fired up. " Let's get it on. It's gonna be great" Maybe he tells the boys something different to get them ready. Guess I been listening to too much Coach Sanders at Colorado. Waiting for Quick to say "We Coming and I'm bringing my Louie bags with me." 😂 All jokes aside. I think he's just a nice guy trying to get stuff done his way. I'd like to see him get one before he retires.

I agree. It all boils down to our O-line. Thats where we have our biggest question mark. Special teams will need to step up too. I have been disappointed from what I have seen so far. We have had some type of botched extra point, FG or punt, every game this year. The margins will be much smaller during district. We're fortunate our defense played as well as they did against AMC. We had two shanked punts that set them up on our side of the field. Things like that will cost you a close game.

Well said PA. To be truthful, we are all on temporary contracts that can be torn up at anytime. None of us are guaranteed anything beyond today. Some of us just come to the realization earlier than others. I'm with you on just soaking in the season and seeing where it takes us. I've voiced some concerns over the last few weeks. But try to keep it to minimum now days. Most of us know what it is with this program at this point. It's all about supporting the kids and watching them grow. One of the reasons I want to see all of our guys get a chance to show what they can do. One thing I know. We have a confident group on the defensive side. They'll bring it Friday night and won't back down. We have the depth and talent to put up a fight. Offense will need to play well too. We can't have them starting on our side of the field all game. Should be a fun a game. No one is expecting our guys to win. They just need to keep their head in the game and don't get down if you give up a play or two.

https://theeagle.com/sports/high-school/football/a-m-consolidated-football-team-falls-to-lufkin-24-17/article_3d4edea4-4ec6-11ee-a44c-4f720505ff6a.html After given it some thought. AMC is a better team than what I thought when I watched them play Huntsville. Think that also says something about how good Huntsville may be this year. AMC came in expecting to win and didn't back down. They have some playmakers and will win their share of games. That was a quality win for us, especially after trailing most of the game. The experience will only help down the line.

Understandable if he a little banged up.

I just shake my head when I see the numbers. Our back up Qb with more rush attempts than our 6'2 250lb back that has shown the ability to make plays. I don't have the numbers, but I'm willing to bet the backups have played more snaps than Gavin, when you consider them playing nearly full halves of two games. The O'line is what it is at this point. I think they are much improved from previous years. But like Kedren, Gavin has the ability to compensate for some of that. He doesn't have the lateral quickness or speed of Young. But he is every bit as powerful and has the ability break through tackles if given a little room. Doesn't have to be a Longview size hole to run through. Just enough to get him rolling. He is averaging 7.2 yards a carry right now. I'm all for the passing game doing it's part when teams stack the box. But there are some games/teams that you will just have to punch someone in the face and run the ball down their throat. Young and Phillip together could really wear down a team. At least thats my vision on how it could go. I'm not the coach, so let me get off my soap box and just enjoy the show. lol.

Gavin is one of our better athletes. A possible P5 kid by some estimates. And would have to agree based on what I've seen. He not some kid in over his head when out there. He has broken tackles and made plays when given the CHANCE to do so. This not me just saying or thinking this, but coach Quick too. He was quoted saying that Gavin can be used as weapon. Well there hasn't been much use as far as I can see. Nothing wrong with using your stud RB to make plays. No one will argue against him getting the lions share of carries. But lets help him out by sharing some of the work load. Gavin is not some 5'3 175lb scat back who can't handle a larger work load. The kid has been grossly under utilized by this staff up to this point.

Took a look at the season stats thread. Our back up Qb having more rush attempts than Gavin is a bit concerning. Unless he's been banged up, 12 touches on the year is inexcusable. I can understand holding back certain formations or plays. But not giving him a chance to run or catch the ball is not helping our team. He's been mostly used as a blocker the few snaps he has had, which is also needed. But not the full package I was expecting.

The second player that got ejected, was throwing haymakers at our lineman. Dude completely lost it and assaulted our player while he was on the ground. Glad we got out of this one with no serious injuries.

There will be a lot said about the game this week. It will probably be the most talked about game for both schools for the year. You would be hard pressed to find more fan engagement between two schools. We already know Longview fans have no longer respect the Lufkin problem. We haven't given them much reason to do so. Quick has only beaten Longview twice, since he took over, with the last one being in 2016. And we have been outscored 97-12 in our last two meeting. So it's safe to say they have established a dominance over our program that spans over several classes. Basically, King has Quicks number. The same way Outlaw had Longviews back in the day. I look at the the way I see all challenges. It's another opportunity to prove yourself and learn something. Lufkin will definitely learn many things about where this program stands next week. Have we closed the gap enough to win or put the game in doubt next week? We can match up with Longview athlete for athlete across the board. So talent won't be the deciding factor. As for as I know, both teams will enter this game healthy. I'm confident in this groups ability to play football well. We have some ballers out there on the field. I do worry about this staff ability to have them prepared. There is a VERY small sample of our staff having guys prepared for big games. We'll see where the chips fall this Friday. My hope is we come out and show that this program is back on track and ready to compete, at least for the next few years...

I think they were better prepared this year. They didn't come in with that lofty ranking and assuming they would just blow us out. We caught them napping last year and they paid for it. They came in focused and ready to go all out on stopping Kedren this year.

I had them picked as a dark horse, once they got a new staff.

For the record..I didn't pick Longview by 30. Not sure what that guy did, but he somehow attributed a quote to me I never said. lol

They look solid to me. That #9 on defense was all over the place. And I like their Qb..not very big but savvy and has command of that offense. It was an ugly win for us, but a good one for the kids confidence. They showed they can come from behind and win a game. When nothing seems to be going right.

Hope you right. The staff better fix that blitz pickup and figure out way to get some other guys going. And can we get Gavin more involved in the offense? We have only given him a few carries this year and have not thrown to him on any of the pass plays he has ran.

Wait what? I didn't say any of that Lol.

Gritty win. Gives them something to build on going into district. Kedren carried the team in the 2nd half. AMC is a solid team and really pushed us tonight. Lufkin still has things to work on if they want to grab one of those four spots. Especially on the offensive side.

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