timeout!

Dude carried this program on his shoulders for 3 years and never got to play one down in the post season. I'm glad his hard work has paid off and he will get to play for a historic program like Notre Dame. I say get the record and shut it down.

Sad, but true. This staff has bamboozled this community long enough. I've seen more than enough talent come through here. To have a better showing than what we have seen the past several years. Quick/Green have done nothing but underachieve here.

Good luck the rest of the season. At least you guys had the guts to make a change.

Oh well. Most of us saw this coming. This staff doesn't win big games. Lufkin is about as stagnant as can be. Tyler get's a new coach and takes step in the right direction. We will actually lose more games this year than last.

So we call a timeout with 1 second left on our side of the field. But not when there was 55 seconds left and Tyler was lining up for a FG? Even Big Nasty was confused. lol

I stopped by and checked out the JV game yesterday. They have some huge linemen. Not sure how it will translate once they get to varsity. A few players did stick out. I was impressed with Kenneth Waters. The team was playing pretty hard. Saw a crack back block by one of our reivers that blew the Tyler defender off his feet. It got a big reaction from the crowd. Unfortunately the play was called back because of holding. I haven't seen a Panther player throw a block like that in a while. But the player that really stood out was #10 Carson Jones. That kid is a head hunter. And really stood out from both squads. He was all over the field and has a motor. Reminded me of some of the old Lbs of past Panther squads. Dude wraps up and puts a lick on you. I lost count of how many times the announcer called his name. Definitely looking forward to seeing him in the future.

I get the whole 6A schools having bigger enrollment. But those won't be large 6A schools next year. The fact is Lufkin has run out of excuses. The being stuck in a district with larger schools excuse was started when Outlaw was still present. We drop in classification and it's still an excuse. There is nothing Lufkin can do about that. There will always be a few schools who enrollment on snapshot day will not be the same during district play. It's the price we pay when being place in DFW/GHA districts. Those areas are growing, and as a result, so are the schools. It's funny, because Lufkin hasn't done anything at the 5A level. I think we have won a total of 2 district championships while being in 5A? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. All of Lufkin playoff success has come at the higher classification. We even failed to anything when we where one of the larger schools in our old 5A district with JT and Ennis. The cause of most of Lufkin failures, can be pointed at in one direction.

Just saw the schedule for Hoopfest on Nov.20-21 Lufkin will play Duncanville and Beaumont United.. 😳 Will be good experience for the Bball team. Temps are dropping and I'm actually looking forward to the warm confines of the PAC gymnasium. It's one of the few things this district has done right the last few years. Not sure how much more I can stomach seeing the football program spiraling down.

That was actually in 2006. But you are right about things never being the same after that. I was actually implying that he could've sought out other opportunities before that. Maybe around 04 or 05. Lufkin was a premier 5A program at that time. Quick had the credentials to land a decent job some place. I'm sure part of him felt obligated to stay after Outlaw passed. One thing that will always stick with me. Is something a SLC fan said on the old 5A Texas Board. He asked the Lufkin fans if we were sure Quick wanted to be a head coach. His reasoning was that Quick had been a DC for a while. It was prob the right move in the short term. But looking back on it, if you take the emotion out of it. And you see where the program is at now. A change in new direction should've been made. I think fans have been more than patient with him. I remember PA saying give him a few years to run things his way. And get a full class in from middle school through HS. Think a lot of fans done just that. Gave the man a chance to get his legs under him as a HC. As I've said before, think we have seen the best his has to offer. If there was anything in that tool box to "fix" this stuff. We would've seen it by now. Sometimes you have a home project you think you can tackle. And you give it a good go and just can't get it done. You either call in help or just step aside and let someone else take care of it. And when you step aside, you can't just hand it over to your buddy, who's been there all day trying to help you "fix" it.

They can still meet up in the conference championship.

I had to take a break from FanDuel. Had more success with the basketball parlays. I've learned to keep it at 3-5 legs.

I was thinking the same thing. I would actually want him to step away and end on high note. If he did somehow make a state run. His legacy here has taken a big hit as HC. He would mostly be remembered as one of the best DC to come through Lufkin. Had he left for other opportunities else where. Heck..he may found success some place outside of Lufkin. He has definitely overstayed his welcome here. This train is close to coming completely off the rails. He had some cover when he was at least making the playoffs and going one and done. Now we looking at possible 3rd straight year with no playoffs. I wouldn't want to be him going into next season. With a possible 4th straight year of no post season staring me in the face. His job may not be on the line, but he should be embarrassed about the state of the program. The lack of winning BIG games stick out. We have came up short on just about every pivotal game with this staff. There have been some huge blunders along the way too. Like giving up that 28-0 halftime lead to Longview in the first round. Losing in the first round at HOME against Texas High. I know they had some guys return from injury. And prob better than what their record indicated. And Polk was injured for us. But we had them at home and still had more than enough to win the game. That game really showed me how far Lufkin had fallen. I remember driving right up to the stadium for a parking spot. The lot was nowhere close to being full for a 1st round game at home.

He will get a shot at the next level.

I remember him being ready to square up. Just years of frustration for everyone that supports this program.

And the powers that be, know the fans are frustrated. And at this point, even they know his staff is underachieving. One big problem. Is no one that matters has the guts to make that call. Too many moving pieces they feel accountable too. It's already been discussed about all the spouses and family members also tied to the district. There are mortgages and college tuitions being paid. Close relationships formed through children, friends and church members. You give someone their walking papers and all of that is put at risk. It's just not something people around here comfortable doing. Has Lufkin ever had to push a coach out? I think most of them just moved on at some point. And does anyone know where Quick ranks for tenured coaches here? I would think he has to be toward the top.

It's not the first time this has happened. I remember someone verbally going at the coaches after a playoff lost to JT at Rose. It was one of the years we had Kordell at Qb.

At this point it may not matter. Although it may be a little bit of both. I'm certain the kids are frustrated about the losing. This was a confident bunch coming into varsity. A lot of them had success on that awesome freshman team. But process and development doesn't stop there. You start to go up against programs that continue the process at the varsity level. And have good coaches that put in schemes to highlight their playmakers. Lufkin offense looks about the same as it did 2 years ago. Not much changed, even though the talent at the wideout position is much improved. Preston has always been threat. They wait until the 7th game of the year to finally get him involved. He could've been an asset last year too. But he was waisted on the sidelines in favor of upperclassmen. Kevo Taylor is not far behind. That kid is electric and should have more touches. Murphy should just be the extra icing on the cake in my opinion. Throw in Kedren and a good OC would have most defenses in a bind every game. Going Preston is the main reason the offense put up numbers this game. I suspect we will see more of the same next year. Green is losing his get out of jail card with Kedren. He has leaned on that kid for the past 3 years. I hate to think about what the offense will look like next year without him. You will also be breaking a new starting Qb. I would feel better about him if he had more meaningful reps this year. Think he will have to take his lumps the first half of next season. He could be something special by his senior year if he continues to development. Of course a lot of this depends on how well the O-line comes together. Recent history should tell us all we need to know about the chances of that happening. The defense still has a chance to be really good. Not sure how effective they will be, if they have to stay on the field too long. I think the offense will take a big step back next year. You lose a lot of experience with TJ and Kedren leaving.

I feel bad for the players. They deserve so much more than this. We have to reset this program at some point. You can see the possibilities with this team. Staff just doesn't have what it takes to get them to that next level. You can hear the frustration in Gary's voice. He a lot more open to questioning calls by the coaches now. He never did that years ago.

He still talking about fixing stuff...

Even Big Nasty is calling out the bad play calling.

Guess someone relayed your message. He should be our leading WR if you ask me.

Don't forget Play action pass on 4th and 12..

I think we all appreciate your insight about the players in the program. Most of us were unfamiliar with the players on that 10-0. I didn't realize how talented they were until I watched some film on YouTube and saw a few on varsity last year. Your assessment was pretty much on point. But from one Pack fan to another. I think you are bit naive when comes to how capable this staff is. If anything, they have done you and the rest of the fans a disservice. By not properly utilizing all of that talent up to this point. Not sure where your'e getting me or anyone else on this board having unrealistic expectations. I have always been reserved and cautiously optimistic when speaking about the success of this team. I don't remember anyone saying they thought this team would win district or make a state run. Now if being unrealistic is expecting them to be able to secure a playoff spot. Well then I guess I'm guilty and YOU are too. The irony in all of this, is that you have been the most outspoken person about this group. No one on this board has been more confident about them than you. I never said "don't worry the calvary is on its way" or "this group won't need the coaches to hold their hands" that was all YOU..not me or anyone else. And it's not that I don't think the players aren't capable. But it's only so much they can do under this staff. YOU said the talent would win out. That remains to be seen.. The season is not over and Lufkin still controls it destiny. Most of expected a loss in Longview. The disappointment and the doubt that came with it, was because of the way they lost. The Forney game is wash, because of all of the the injuries. And was always a toss up game. I think we win if all of our players are in. So I agree with you on that. Tonight a big game and I expect them to come out ready. Not sure what the coaches will do though. As for as Tyler goes. Not sure why anyone would have an issue. With some of us stating the obvious. 1. Their fans are excited about the new coaches. 2. The team is playing better this year. 3. Lufkin can't assume that game will be an easy win. No one in Lufkin is excited about this staff, except a few people...And Tyler is not in the same boat as Lufkin.

Lufkin program has been driven into the ground. The season not even over yet and most of us already know how it will end. Not because we don't support the kids and want to see them be successful. But because we have been conditioned to feel this way. Like a kid expecting a dead beat dad to take them to Disney World every summer. It's not gonna happen champ. Those of us who have been around already know it. Do you think any fans in this district would swap coaching staffs with Lufkin? I don't think so. Not even the Mesquite schools would. Quick has nothing to stand on right now. I doubt Nac would swap with us. They have seen how bad it's gotten around. I'm sure they would stick with their first year coach and see where it goes.

I think it has more to do with Tyler trying to rebuild their program. There was no hype around them coming into this year, other than their fans and players being excited about new leadership. They are playing much better than last year. And have a good chance to possibly knock off Lufkin. Lufkin on the other hand. Came in with the same tired coaching staff. Nothing has changed and we look to be on the same road as previous years. All the excitement around this program was based on expectations of finally having an abundance of talent to work with. That hasn't proven to make any difference so far. So Tyler beating NM 21-6 is another positive for them. They also came back to play McNorth hard. It will be interesting see how much of a fight we put up against McNorth. I'm holding out some hope. But keeping my expectations low. Trust me..Tyler fans feel much better about the direction their program is headed vs what most of us feel right now about Lufkin. It's time to pull the plug on the Quick/Green era. It has gotten us virtually nothing. They have lost just about every big game they have coached in. They hardly ever beat teams that have equal talent and coaching. The games they do win are usually the ones that Lufkin is heavy favorites in. And they even struggle in those sometimes.