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I like the idea of streaming games. Still haven't heard anything about band or drill team. I think Lufkin will be fine as for as testing goes. Not sure how things will go with the Houston teams. All of their numbers are going up as of now. Not sure that changes by the time school starts. 

Have they released the names of the Super Teams yet? 

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1 hour ago, PurpleNation said:

PA can you share what it says about Temple and the top Sophomores listed.

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Pushing the ball carrier forward is prohibited.

There will be heat time outs.  They have those in Louisiana.

Altering the targeting penalty

Change the touchback rule

Proposal to alter the kick of/ punt return

 

Lifting the broadcast rules for Friday Night football

Approved Streaming games for Friday Night Football for the 2020 season only.

Very promising discussion by the UIL board this morning that we will have a football season.

 

 

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Wish Lufkin would make an effort to hire a good OL assistant like Rex Hadnot,  someone that has played the game at a high level , to come in and help coach the line.

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Looking for a record setting year from Caleb Berry.  He has all the tools.  I remember his father, WR  Jeremy Berry helping Lufkin to two huge comeback wins against Euless Trinity and Austin Westlake for Lufkin's only State Title in 2001.  

 

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Never got any feed back to the number of kids in the Panther summer work outs.  Marshall has 235,  JT 140 and Longview 300.  Their fans seem to know the numbers, no one seems to know here.

Have another question. there is a fan on another site, who speaks about how great their 2023, 2024 and 2025 Varsity teams will be , the  2025 team players based on 7th grade talent (who will be seniors in 2025)  will just begin 7th grade this fall.  We have not played the 2020 season, so 2025 is 6 seasons away.

I know that PurpleNation has mentioned his high regard for some of the Lufkin future 8th and 9th grade talent coming through the Lufkin system right now. 

Question,  Is it really possible to know how successful your team will be 6 seasons from now based on some kids just now coming into your 7th or 8th grade system??    I've been around a long time and I've never been that good at predicting such varsity success watching  the 7th and 8th graders play in Lufkin. So, maybe I don't have the eye for seeing the future that way.   

Also, still waiting for some help on the Lufkin participation numbers in summer workouts.  I 'm just one guy, so I need help with information sources.  I look at this  Panther site as a team effort that involves the whole Panther Nation.

 

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2 hours ago, PackAttack said:

Never got any feed back to the number of kids in the Panther summer work outs.  Marshall has 235,  JT 140 and Longview 300.  Their fans seem to know the numbers, no one seems to know here.

Have another question. there is a fan on another site, who speaks about how great their 2023, 2024 and 2025 Varsity teams will be , the  2025 team players based on 7th grade talent (who will be seniors in 2025)  will just begin 7th grade this fall.  We have not played the 2020 season, so 2025 is 6 seasons away.

I know that PurpleNation has mentioned his high regard for some of the Lufkin future 8th and 9th grade talent coming through the Lufkin system right now. 

Question,  Is it really possible to know how successful your team will be 6 seasons from now based on some kids just now coming into your 7th or 8th grade system??    I've been around a long time and I've never been that good at predicting such varsity success watching  the 7th and 8th graders play in Lufkin. So, maybe I don't have the eye for seeing the future that way.   

Also, still waiting for some help on the Lufkin participation numbers in summer workouts.  I 'm just one guy, so I need help with information sources.  I look at this  Panther site as a team effort that involves the whole Panther Nation.

 

I knew we were going to be special in middle school. Finished 14-1

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9 minutes ago, PurpleNation said:

I knew we were going to be special in middle school. Finished 14-1

 Excellent record.  Wasn't the only loss to Longview by a narrow margin?  Think I saw that game, like a 6-0 score.  Unfortunately, my experience observing them play has only been about 7 or 8 games the past two years.  Good to know there is good talent moving up toward the varsity.   PurpleNation,  could sure use your input here as much as possible, you have good information that I'm not privy to know.   Thanks.

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6 hours ago, PackAttack said:

 

Have another question. there is a fan on another site, who speaks about how great their 2023, 2024 and 2025 Varsity teams will be 

 

Whew, havent been around here in forever.

Anyway, you're talking about me.

First off, you need to get the years correct. When I speak about 2023-2025, I am talking about their graduation classes. So that would mean players that will be in 8th-sophomores this fall. That would also mean that I am talking about the 2022-2023...maybe 2024 Lobo teams.

And yes, if you truly have an eye for talent and potential, you can get an idea of what those players and teams will be like down the road. 

I truly start evaluating talent once those players get to 7th grade. In Longview, you can honestly start before that because the little league system is so great. But for the most part, 7th grade. 

There have been so many players over the years that I start talking about when they are in 7th grade, and they end up exactly like I thought they would by the time they are SRs. 

I mean look at WR Jalen Hale. I've been telling Lobo fans about him since maybe before he was in 7th grade. Foster MS product. Now look at him. He was the first player to play varsity ball at Longview as a freshman in decades and is the first Longview player in school history to accumulate major offers as a freshman. The 6'3 180 pounder will start for Longview this fall as a sophomore. He's Bobby Taylor caliber athlete as he may be even better on the basketball court and track. He's so good, I wouldnt be surprised to see him playing both sides in the future, at safety. No one hardly ever plays both sides at Longview.

RB Kaden Meredith. Judson MS product. Raved about him since his 7th grade year when he was casually putting up 200 rushing yards a game as a Judson Blue Devil. Now he has Longview rushing records in site going into his SR year. Nearly 20 offers accumulated this offseason. The guy had a 354 yard game this past year in Mesquite. Those are numbers Lobo fans havent seen since Fred Talley!

Way back in 2014, I started predicting that 2017-2019 Longview teams "were going to do big things". You could see it in the talent coming out of all 3 middle schools at the time, especially Judson (Marcus Williams, Marcus Harry, Kaylen Allen, Jaylon Allen, Jacob Johnson etc) ...and Foster (Kamden Perry, Jessie Anderson, Keilyn Williams, Haynes King, Jephaniah Lister, Parker Cox, Goram-Welch etc). Fast forward, 2017 went to the semis and probably should have at least played for a title. 2018 won the title. 2019 rode the longest winning streak in Texas until a flat night resulted in a way early playoff exit. I'd say I predicted that pretty good.

Now Longview fans are seeing something very similar, maybe even better brewing with the soon to be 8th-sophomore group. Our 9th grade team this fall will be the best since 2015. Ton of talent. I don't wanna get too in depth, but I'll list off a couple of names to know for the future. Come back to me in a few years and let me know what you think. lol

WR Jalen Hale (6'3 180) - will be a sophomore in the fall and will start

RB Willie Nelson - Judson MS product who will be in 9th this fall

QB Landyn Grant (6'2 185) - will be a sophomore in the fall and will start

RB Kelvin Washington - Judson MS product who will be in 8th this fall

OLB/DE JJ Rougley (6'2.5 195) - will be a sophomore in the fall

FB Elijah Johnson - will be in 9th this fall, big ol fullback, Jessie Anderson like

WR/S JT Wright (6'3 180) - will be a sophomore this fall

WR Ethan Harrison - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'1

TE Jaymerson Darensbourg - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'1

CB/ATH DK Reese - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'0

There are many more pieces than that but, you catch my drift.

@PurpleNation has seen some of these guys and can attest to this. There's even a big RB headed to 8th this fall, Foster MS, that he was very impressed with last year. Jakaevon Odum is his name.

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Okay, graduating classes, you threw me off there.  That make a little more sense I guess.  PurpleNation is better than I am at assessing this future talent around here.  He knows the kids better than I do.  Leaves much to look forward to in the future for both schools.

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Josh and the Lufkin Daily finally got around to announcing the DCTF rankings from last Monday.  As always, a a good quality article to read. I'm just going to include the information about Lufkin and their 8-5A DI District opponents.  Most we have already covered here, just refresh a few things and continue to get ready for what we how is a season of HS football.  Hoping for the best.

 

The anticipated release of Dave Campbell’s Texas Football Magazine means another high school season is just around the corner. At least that is what the current plan is.

The annual release brings about more high expectations for the Lufkin Panthers, ranked among the Top 25 teams in the state in their respective 5ADI classification.

Lufkin is the No. 11 team in Class 5A DI.

 

The Panthers have another talented group of players, mixed with several newcomers, that will ultimately tell the success of the 2020 season.

Lufkin is the preseason pick to win its third straight district championship. The Panthers are picked first in District 8-5A DI, ahead of College Station, which checks in as the No. 16 team in the state.

Magnolia is picked third, while district newcomer New Caney is picked to take the fourth and final playoff spot.

The district is rounded out by Magnolia West, New Caney Porter, Waller, Conroe Caney Creek and Cleveland.

Lufkin’s Jordan Moore was selected as the district’s preseason player of the year. He is coming off a junior season in which he threw for 2,894 yards and 25 touchdowns on 186-of-280 passing with three interceptions. He also ran for nine touchdowns.

Moore is also one of three Lufkin players who were named to Texas’ Top 300 players list. He was included in the “Best of the Rest” quarterbacks in the state.

Moore has drawn Division I interest, including an offer from Hawaii.

Two other Panthers were also included among the state’s best 300 players as running back Caleb Berry and wide receiver Kelton Wright were recognized.

Berry has gotten offers from Nebraska, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Houston, Washington, Washington State, Nevada and several others.

He battled through an injury-plagued junior season to finish with 820 yards and 13 touchdowns on 127 carries.

Berry was listed among the Top 25 running backs in the state.

Wright is the leading returning receiver for the Panthers after a season in which he caught 40 passes for 704 yards and six touchdowns. He was listed among the “Best of the Rest” wide receivers in the state.

Those are three of the six returning starters on the offensive side of the ball, which should be ready for another big season. Other offensive players to watch included OL Trent Mosby and WR A.J. Montgomery.

Lufkin is also returning five starters on defense, including Wilburn Smallwood, who recently committed to Nevada. Other players to watch on defense included DE Bryce Owens, DL Tre’vaun Jenkins and DB Julian Diaz.

College Station’s Bubba Carter was named the preseason Defensive Player of the Year in the district.

Lufkin finished just outside the Top 10 in the state rankings.

Perennial powerhouse Denton Ryan was No. 1, followed by Frisco Lone Star, Longview, Highland Park, Lancaster, Manvel, Richmond Foster, Cedar Park, Red Oak and Amarillo Tascosa.

Several copies of Dave Campbell’s Texas Football has been mailed out to subscribers. It will be available at local newsstands in the upcoming weeks.

 
Josh Havard’s email address is josh.havard@lufkindailynews.com.
 
 
 

Kelton Wright #13

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Josh and DCTF left off some returning starters for the Panthers in 2020. In addition to those already mentioned above in the article and in the DCTF Magazine.  There are other starters returning for the Lufkin Panthers in 2020 from the 2019 team.

On the offense, Riley Self and Alex Pruitt return to the Offensive Line, as do William McCall and Kedaren Holman.  Christian Diaz will return as a Slot WR on the offense too.  The Panther offense has some experience returning.  RB Toddrick Johnson also returns.  So, there is depth.    Journie Thomas moves up to the varsity, he is the next KeKe Coutee.  He has size and length, with game breaking speed and quickness.   

 

On defense,  Josh did not mention these returning starters.  DE Kayson Elijah and DT  Zion Moreland will be a big part of the Panther DL .  Cameron Lister will move up to the varsity level to play DB.  Sam Flack LB/TE also returns for Lufkin.  Jackson Warden returns to play Safety/LB after breaking his leg in the first game against Longview.  Charlie Arnold,  DJ Humphrey and Jaykeevien Collins all return in the Panther defensive secondary.  2019 starter Kaden Maxie returns at LB, as does Davion Wacasey.

James White Jr. moves up to the Varsity to play DL for the Pack.

There is a bunch of returning talent for Lufkin and a bunch of talent moving up to the Varsity in 2020.  The next few years for Lufkin football look very good.

If I have left anyone out, please add them here.

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Forgot to mention we also return four kickers from 2019 roster,   Caleb Encarnacion #37 (2019 Kicking Specialist of the Year in District 8-5A DI),  Erick Agular #36,  Armando Castanada #38 and Aleberto Mendina #35.  All were listed as  juniors.

 

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Talking about participation numbers for Summer Workouts.   Arlington-Martin High School near Dallas, had about 600 athletes attended the first day of summer conditioning programs June 8.  That is a bunch of kids.

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Looks like the John Outlaw Golf Tourney will go on this summer.  Good for them.  City of Lufkin the only City in East Texas to Cancel their July 4th Fireworks Celebration.  Smart or  not Smart, I don't know?

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On 5/19/2020 at 11:41 AM, PackAttack said:

I don't disagree with you at all or take this situation with a sense of complacency.  I respect all opinions on this virus matter, because it means something different to everyone The seriousness applies different to each and every family out there. However, the statistics of those who have become sick with the virus or have died with it,  in TEXAS has been a very low percentage compared to the total  State population.  With that said, the social distancing, closing of non essential business and schools being closed, all together has made sure this thing was not more wide spread.  The main fear in this virus is there is no vaccine for it and the one's who have some deficiency in their immune system, whether they are young or old have possibly died from it.  Maybe some folks that didn't realize they had a pre existing condition.   

On the scientific side of things. Humans must be exposed to diseases in order to become immune to them.  The fact that 98% of the cases of COVID are mild, like a bad cold or flu should not scare us.  It's the unknown factor of who might contract the full blown version of the virus and struggle for their life is what scares people.  If you shelter and don't get out, your immune system weakens and becomes separable to other diseases.  Every day we fight off thousands of types of bacteria and viruses. The human body is teeming with bacteria. In each person, there are about 10 times as many bacterial cells as human cells. Bacteria live on skin, in the respiratory tract and throughout the digestive tract. The digestive tract alone is home to between 500 and 1,000 bacterial species.

If we hide in isolation, then some of those other critters will eventually make you very sick.  The sun and UV light are your friend.  Bacteria and viruses cannot survive exposure to UV rays.  It's Gods natural help for us humans.  

Gov. Abbott is listening to his health officials, he is setting the opening of things up in phases, knowing there will be a slight uptick in cases for a very short time, as we open things back up.  You just can't stay sheltered, it is not good for the human body to do so, we are not made that way.  The strongest will survive, that is the natural process for all animal life on the planet, with the exception of humans.  With any disease, the old, the weak and sick do not survive in the animal kingdom, thus preserving their specie.  Keeping our immune system strong is the key to healthy living and finding immunity from the plethora of viruses and bacteria that swirl around us  humans daily.  

If I get sick and die with this virus, it won't be because I haven't been keeping my hands and face clean or practicing social distancing.  However, I am not fearful and still go out regularly to store and places without a mask on.   If my allergies make me cough a bit, I  wear a mask just in case or just stay home.  

When there is a football season, I'll wear a mask to the game if needed, they can check my temperature at the gate and at halftime if they want to.  I'll even sanitize every quarter if required.   Maybe the Band folks can come up with a pre packaged concession option.  Personally, I think we will see things much better by August and the dire predictions of a 2nd round of the virus in the fall will only happen because the CDC shut us down and sheltered us so long in the Spring .   They know what they are doing, don't be fooled.  I don't buy their tactics to weaken me and I'm probable older than most of you on this site.  In fact I would probably be considered in the high risk category.   Got to go now, mowing at the church today.

 

Well....he’s now telling people to stay home. 
 

https://www.axios.com/texas-governor-coronavirus-cases-record-1248aa8d-da42-42ff-848f-c1184f77bb21.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

 

 

 

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Yes, the virus is on the uptick. People want normal. They don't want to stay home, wear mask or social distance the rest of the year.  People need to earn a living, businesses need to operate. Government can't help sustain the people with money unless the people are working and the businesses are open. Tax dollars fund governments. COVID is not going away easily,  it was probably never intended to do so.

I'm not against wearing mask, practicing good hygiene and observing proper social distancing to buffer this situation. In fact practice those things myself. Although I admit to not using a mask often, but I have on the needed occasion.

Humans are generally not good at social distancing for long periods of time. The current virus hot spots seem to be areas of close confinement like larger populations, prisons and nursing homes. Chicken plants???  Beaches???

Personally, don't have a clue where this is all going. Still not convince how school or football or anything we have normally done in the past will function in the future. I'm still upset that this thing got out of a lab in China. WHY are any lab companies working on such testing, research and developing any type virus strain like this, except to do exactly what has been done. Release on the public for various reasons. Population control ?? or  pharm companies making billions of dollars distributing a vaccine worldwide. Which you know they had in the works before they released this virus,  because in every known virus epidemic before,  it has taken 2 years to properly develop a true vaccine for public use, and they are doing this in 10 months???  It's a terrible game they play with human life. It's BS.

Everyone has their own individual feeling about all of this,  don't think anyone is wrong or right.  I just know everything about this whole situation is not being told and the different organizations world wide want you to believe what they tell you.  Anyone who doesn't believe that, are not thinking for themselves or they're being foolish.

Hope there is a football season and school and maybe some day be able to travel again without authorities making you feel the need to wear a bio suit for protection.  Not sure what will happen, but I refuse to live in fear over it all or believe everything they are telling the masses. You will never find me in that line.😎

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Have a question.  What is the viability of players using surgical mask to play football?   Add in a mouth piece, I don't know?   

Hated wearing a mouth piece and put in the side of my mouth every opportunity possible. My thoughts would be it will be hard to do exerting yourself physically.

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Please listen and watch. This is a great message and I personally don't know any other way to approach these days.  We are all in this together. This is a strong man with a strong foundation to speak from his heart.

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On 6/19/2020 at 3:43 PM, wolfpack4life said:

Whew, havent been around here in forever.

Anyway, you're talking about me.

First off, you need to get the years correct. When I speak about 2023-2025, I am talking about their graduation classes. So that would mean players that will be in 8th-sophomores this fall. That would also mean that I am talking about the 2022-2023...maybe 2024 Lobo teams.

And yes, if you truly have an eye for talent and potential, you can get an idea of what those players and teams will be like down the road. 

I truly start evaluating talent once those players get to 7th grade. In Longview, you can honestly start before that because the little league system is so great. But for the most part, 7th grade. 

There have been so many players over the years that I start talking about when they are in 7th grade, and they end up exactly like I thought they would by the time they are SRs. 

I mean look at WR Jalen Hale. I've been telling Lobo fans about him since maybe before he was in 7th grade. Foster MS product. Now look at him. He was the first player to play varsity ball at Longview as a freshman in decades and is the first Longview player in school history to accumulate major offers as a freshman. The 6'3 180 pounder will start for Longview this fall as a sophomore. He's Bobby Taylor caliber athlete as he may be even better on the basketball court and track. He's so good, I wouldnt be surprised to see him playing both sides in the future, at safety. No one hardly ever plays both sides at Longview.

RB Kaden Meredith. Judson MS product. Raved about him since his 7th grade year when he was casually putting up 200 rushing yards a game as a Judson Blue Devil. Now he has Longview rushing records in site going into his SR year. Nearly 20 offers accumulated this offseason. The guy had a 354 yard game this past year in Mesquite. Those are numbers Lobo fans havent seen since Fred Talley!

Way back in 2014, I started predicting that 2017-2019 Longview teams "were going to do big things". You could see it in the talent coming out of all 3 middle schools at the time, especially Judson (Marcus Williams, Marcus Harry, Kaylen Allen, Jaylon Allen, Jacob Johnson etc) ...and Foster (Kamden Perry, Jessie Anderson, Keilyn Williams, Haynes King, Jephaniah Lister, Parker Cox, Goram-Welch etc). Fast forward, 2017 went to the semis and probably should have at least played for a title. 2018 won the title. 2019 rode the longest winning streak in Texas until a flat night resulted in a way early playoff exit. I'd say I predicted that pretty good.

Now Longview fans are seeing something very similar, maybe even better brewing with the soon to be 8th-sophomore group. Our 9th grade team this fall will be the best since 2015. Ton of talent. I don't wanna get too in depth, but I'll list off a couple of names to know for the future. Come back to me in a few years and let me know what you think. lol

WR Jalen Hale (6'3 180) - will be a sophomore in the fall and will start

RB Willie Nelson - Judson MS product who will be in 9th this fall

QB Landyn Grant (6'2 185) - will be a sophomore in the fall and will start

RB Kelvin Washington - Judson MS product who will be in 8th this fall

OLB/DE JJ Rougley (6'2.5 195) - will be a sophomore in the fall

FB Elijah Johnson - will be in 9th this fall, big ol fullback, Jessie Anderson like

WR/S JT Wright (6'3 180) - will be a sophomore this fall

WR Ethan Harrison - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'1

TE Jaymerson Darensbourg - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'1

CB/ATH DK Reese - will be in 9th this fall, already 6'0

There are many more pieces than that but, you catch my drift.

@PurpleNation has seen some of these guys and can attest to this. There's even a big RB headed to 8th this fall, Foster MS, that he was very impressed with last year. Jakaevon Odum is his name.

Yeah that 7th grade will be a load. I agree it takes an eye for talent that young but easy to project if you know what you're looking at. I've coached the last decade in youth sports mainly football. Jalen Hale and my son are pretty good friends to the point they make sure to team up together at camps.Ill be rooting for that kid. 

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