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Local teams ranked in East Texas poll by Brandon Ogden - Tyler Morning Telegraph

Longview ended their 2018 season playing for a state title at AT&T Stadium in Arlington.

After earlier than expected playoff exits in 2019, the Lobos  enter 2020 hoping to return to championship weekend at the home of the Dallas Cowboys.

Longview tops the Class 6A/5A/4A portion of the #bEASTTexas Fabulous 15 preseason poll, while Malakoff leads the way in the Class 3A/2A/TAPPS poll.

The Lobos, coming off of an 11-1 campaign, received nine first-place votes and 204 points.

Longview is followed in the big-school poll by defending Class 4A Division I champion Carthage. The Bulldogs received five first-place votes and earned 192 points.

Rounding out the top five are Pleasant Grove (174 points), Lufkin (173 points) and Gilmer (136 points).

John Tyler is just outside of the top five and is followed by Marshall and Tyler Lee.

Pine Tree is the only team in the 2020 preseason top 15 for Class 6A/5A/4A that didn’t finish the 2019 regular season in the top 15.

Voters in the poll were Jack Stallard, Hayden Henry and George Whitley of the Longview News-Journal, Phil Hicks and Brandon Ogden of the Tyler Morning Telegraph, J. Scott Russell of the Panola Watchman, Nathan Hague of the Marshall News Messenger, John Krueger of the Nacogdoches Daily Sentinel, Josh Havard of The Lufkin Daily News, Mitch Lucas of the Kilgore News Herald, Juwan Lee of the Palestine Herald-Press, Jay Neal of the Jacksonville Progress, Reagan Roy of CBS 19 and Harlen the Sports Guy of the Friday Night Scoreboard Show.

CLASS 6A/5A/4A

Team Points 2019 Record 2019 Finish

1. Longview (9) 204 11-1 1

2. Carthage (5) 192 16-0 2

3. Pleasant Grove 174 15-1 4

4. Lufkin 173 9-2 3

5. Gilmer 136 10-4 6

6. John Tyler 121 3-8 13

7. Marshall 99 7-4 7

8. Tyler Lee 93 6-5 9

9. Texas High 88 7-5 14

10. Whitehouse 61 8-4 10

11. Lindale 60 7-4 11

12. Kilgore 55 5-6 15

13. Henderson 50 7-4 8

14. Pine Tree 33 5-6 NR

15. Van 32 6-4 12

Others receiving votes: Jasper 28; Paris 27; Palestine 10; Crandall 10; Mabank 9; Center 8; Athens 7; Pittsburg 5; Nacogdoches 4; Spring Hill 1.

 

****   If you notice, Longview gets THREE votes in this poll.  LDN's Josh Havard is the lone voter from  Lufkin. 😉

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Each day I wake up and wish this virus would disappear like the Spanish flu. 

I think LP will be really good this year if they get to play. 

Go Pack 
 

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22 minutes ago, pack98 said:

PA,

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29454756/nfl-unveils-oakley-mouth-shield-combat-coronavirus
 

A bit of protection not sure of the high schools can get them or afford them. 

Thanks, this is a great idea.  Wonder what would be supply availability be for all the teams out there between now and August?  Affordability for some schools would be another question.  I'm sure other companies will follow suit with a similar type product, quality control and warranties?   This could be a cost the Lufkin Sideliner's Boosters could assist purchasing for the Panthers..

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2 hours ago, PackAttack said:

Thanks, this is a great idea.  Wonder what would be supply availability be for all the teams out there between now and August?  Affordability for some schools would be another question.  I'm sure other companies will follow suit with a similar type product, quality control and warranties?   This could be a cost the Lufkin Sideliner's Boosters could assist purchasing for the Panthers..

I imagine others will follow with designes maybe not in time  for this year but next year unless we get a vaccine or it goes away. Like the idea and anything we can do to make things a bit safer I am all for and hopefully the schools can get them for a reasonable price. 

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Lufkin is not going to do this, based on the questionnaire sent out about tickets.  Plus the general admission on the visitor side will also be dispersed equally to those Pack fans who sit on that side of the stadium.  You are not being left out of the mix.  Currently the State says 50%  stadium capacity will be allowed by August 31st.  As we previously discussed, that would allow something like 5225 people to attend a Lufkin game @ Abe Martin.  This based only if the season starts on time or at all.   If things don't improve it may be 25% capacity, which is tougher, about 2612 maximum.   To be honest, except for the Longview game last year,  from my vantage point, I don't think Lufkin averaged over 3500-4000 a game in the last two years.  Someone correct me if i'm in error here.  I'm not counting the Mexico games.  Of course , I understand we need to have a season first.

On another note, we have heard nothing about Lufkin media streaming their home games.  We are sure that is in the works, and as we all know, the Lufkin games will be broadcast by Gary Ivins on the radio.  I read where that contract has been agreed upon and is ready to go for the 2020-2021 year,

 

 

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After the 2020 UIL Realignment, what are the strongest districts in 5A Div I  Texas high school football?

CLASS 5A DIVISION I

RANK DISTRICT TEAMS (2019 RECORD)
1 4-5A DI Burleson Centennial (10-2), Colleyville Heritage (9-5), Fort Worth Richland (4-7), Mansfield Legacy (4-7), Mansfield Summit (7-4), Midlothian (8-3), N. Richland Hills Birdville (9-4), Red Oak (11-2)
2 7-5A DI Highland Park (11-2), Longview (11-1), McKinney North (10-2), Sherman (6-4), Tyler John Tyler (3-8), West Mesquite (2-8), Wylie East (2-8)
3 5-5A DI Denton (4-6), Denton Ryan (15-1), Frisco Centennial (2-8), Frisco Heritage (4-6), Frisco Independence (10-3), Frisco Lone Star (14-1), Frisco Reedy (6-5), Frisco Wakeland (5-6), The Colony (8-3)
4 11-5A DI Austin Anderson (6-4), Cedar Park (11-2), Georgetown (8-4), Leander (0-10), Manor (8-6), Pflugerville (2-8), Pflugerville Hendrickson (4-6), Pflugerville Weiss (9-3)
5 3-5A DI Abilene Cooper (11-2), Azle (10-2), Crowley (9-2), Fort Worth Brewer (2-8), FW Arlington Heights (2-8), Granbury (6-5), Justin Northwest (6-5), Saginaw (7-4)
6 2-5A DI Amarillo (9-3), Amarillo Caprock (2-8), Amarillo Palo Duro (3-7), Amarillo Tascosa (10-4), Lubbock (1-9), Lubbock Coronado (7-5), Lubbock Monterey (6-6)
7 8-5A DI Cleveland (0-10), College Station (8-4), Conroe Caney Creek (2-8), Lufkin (9-2), Magnolia (8-4), Magnolia West (5-6), New Caney (10-1), New Caney Porter (9-3), Waller (0-9)
8 9-5A DI Baytown Goose Creek Mem (3-7), Baytown Lee (5-5), Baytown Sterling (1-9), Beaumont United (5-5), Friendswood (9-3), Galveston Ball (3-7), La Porte (4-6), Port Arthur Memorial (5-6)
9 10-5A DI Angleton (6-3), Fort Bend Hightower (6-5), Fort Bend Kempner (5-5), Houston Milby (4-6), Houston Wisdom (0-10), Katy Paetow (8-3), Manvel (13-1), Richmond Foster (8-5), Rosenberg Terry (2-8)
10 15-5A DI CC Flour Bluff (8-4), CC Veterans Memorial (10-4), Corpus Christi Carroll (0-10), Corpus Christi King (2-8), Corpus Christi Moody (4-6), Corpus Christi Ray (2-8), Gregory-Portland (6-4), Victoria East (5-5), Victoria West (7-5)
11 16-5A DI Brownsville Lopez (2-8), Brownsville Pace (6-5), Brownsville Porter (5-5), Brownsville Veterans Mem (7-3), Donna (3-7), La Joya Palmview (7-4), McAllen (3-7), McAllen Memorial (10-2), McAllen Rowe (7-5), Weslaco East (9-4)
12 12-5A DI Buda Johnson (6-3), Dripping Springs (9-2), Kyle Lehman (1-9), New Braunfels Canyon (0-10), SA Veterans Memorial (9-3), San Antonio Harlandale (5-5), San Antonio McCollum (0-10), Seguin (5-6)
13 14-5A DI Eagle Pass Winn (3-7), Laredo Cigarroa (1-9), Laredo Martin (6-5), Rio Grande City (9-2), SA Southwest Legacy (6-4), San Antonio Southside (7-4), San Antonio Southwest (6-6)
14 1-5A DI El Paso Bel Air (3-7), El Paso Chapin (2-9), El Paso Del Valle (5-6), El Paso El Dorado (1-9)
15 6-5A DI Carrollton Smith (1-9), Carrollton Turner (0-10), Dallas Adams (3-7), Dallas Molina (1-9), Dallas Samuell (2-8), Dallas Sunset (0-10), Dallas White (4-6), Dallas Wilson (3-7), Lancaster (11-3)
16 13-5A DI San Antonio Brackenridge (7-4), San Antonio Burbank (6-5), San Antonio Edison (1-9), San Antonio Highlands (1-9), San Antonio Jefferson (3-7), San Antonio Kennedy (0-10), San Antonio Lanier (4-6), San Antonio Memorial (2-8), San Antonio Sam Houston (3-7)

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5 hours ago, pack98 said:

I imagine others will follow with designes maybe not in time  for this year but next year unless we get a vaccine or it goes away. Like the idea and anything we can do to make things a bit safer I am all for and hopefully the schools can get them for a reasonable price. 

Another option:

https://www.americanfootballinternational.com/schutt-introduces-revolutionary-full-face-visor-for-pandemic-football-era/

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2020 Class 5A Division 1 Dist. 8  Team Schedules

5A - 8   Cleveland  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  at Fulshear (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  vs Houston North Forest (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  at Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  vs Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  at Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  vs New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  at New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  vs College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  at Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  Open      
11/6  vs Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   College Station (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  vs Hutto (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/5  at Fort Bend Bush (0-0)   (0-0) 6:00 PM
9/11  at Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  vs New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  at New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  Open      
10/9  vs Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  at Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  vs Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  at Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  vs Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   Conroe Caney Creek  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  vs Pasadena (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  at Galena Park (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  Open      
9/18  vs Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  at Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  vs Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/8  at New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/15  vs New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  at College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  vs Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  at Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   Lufkin  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  at Tyler Lee (0-0)   (0-0) 7:30 PM
9/4  vs Nacogdoches (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  at Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  vs Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  at New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  vs New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  at College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  Open      
10/23  vs Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  at Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  vs Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   Magnolia  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  vs Katy Tompkins (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  vs Brenham (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  vs College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  at Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  vs Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  at Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  vs Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  at Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  Open      
10/30  vs New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  at New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   Magnolia West (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  at Brenham (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  vs Temple (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  vs Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  at Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  vs Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  at Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  Open      
10/16  vs Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  at New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  vs New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  at College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   New Caney  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  vs Marshall (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  at Humble Kingwood Park (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  at New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  Open      
9/25  vs College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  at Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  vs Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/15  at Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/22  vs Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  at Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  vs Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   New Caney Porter (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  at Montgomery (0-0)   (0-0) 7:30 PM
9/4  vs Montgomery Lake Creek (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  vs New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  at College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  vs Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/2  at Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/8  vs Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  at Waller (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/23  vs Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  at Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  Open      
PF (0) PA (0)
 
5A - 8   Waller  (0-0)(0-0) Score Time
8/28  at Bryan (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/4  vs Aldine (0-0)   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/11  vs Cleveland (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/18  at Conroe Caney Creek (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
9/25  Open      
10/2  vs Magnolia West (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/9  at Magnolia (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/16  vs New Caney Porter (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/22  at New Caney (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
10/30  vs College Station (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
11/6  at Lufkin (0-0)*   (0-0) 7:00 PM
PF (0) PA (0)

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NJCAA moving fall sports schedule to spring

The National Junior Collegiate Athletic Association voted on Monday afternoon to move the fall sports schedule to the spring.

The move affected football, volleyball, soccer and the beginning of the men’s and women’s basketball seasons.

Angelina College will now open its basketball practices on Jan. 11 before playing the season from Jan. 29-March 27.

Teams will be limited to a maximum of a 21-game regular season with the conference tournament to follow before championship play begins on April 19.

The Roadrunners won last season’s conference tournament to receive the automatic bid for the national tournament in Hutchinson, Kansas, before it was canceled shortly after due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

It was the second straight season an AC basketball team had qualified for the tournament after the women competed in the national tournament in Lubbock in 2019.

The teams, led by head coaches Nick Wade and Byron Coleman, will aim to duplicate those feats in an abbreviated season. In previous years, the season would start in early November before ending in early March.

AC had previously made the decision to suspend its soccer seasons until the fall of 2021, although the NJCAA soccer season will be played in the spring of 2021.

AC’s 2021 baseball and softball seasons are set to be played as originally scheduled.

In addition to those sports, the junior college football season will begin on March 25 instead of the regular fall season.

“Our greatest focus is and always has been providing the best opportunities for our student-athletes,” Christopher Parker, NJCAA president and CEO said in a statement. “Through a unified effort from our Presidential Advisory Council, the Board of Regents, and leadership staff, our most recent plan of action provides a path that keeps our student-athletes competing at the highest level with proper safety measures in place. As we move forward as an association, we will continue to provide opportunities for our student-athletes, coaches, and all those involved with the NJCAA to be safe and successful.”

 

Josh Havard's email address is

josh.havard@lufkindailynews.com.

 

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6 hours ago, PackAttack said:

PA,

That  will work as well. I really hope more sports can play to help ease the minds of this world we are living in for a  few hours at least. 

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Riley Self and Trenton Mosby working out.  Looks like the demolition of the old Lufkin Middle school is ongoing.

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Episode 993 (July 15, 2020) - This Week in 'Crootin & QB1 presented by REPS with Southlake Carroll QB Quinn Ewers!

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9 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

Awesome way to go. If I am not mistaken the coach kine is from East Texas and coached. What better way to build your team fill them with Texans especially tough East Texans. Hawaii is beautiful only downside they play late and it’s a long plane ride. 
 

Best of luck young man. 

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Well, this just about assures a delay and will force the UIL to make the hard decision.  Austin ISD/Travis County will not allow sports instruction on campuses until September 7th.

https://www.statesman.com/sports/20200714/emergency-order-in-travis-county-to-delay-start-of-high-school-sports-seasons

Also Houston ISD are bouncing some changes around.  They are preparing to play but have a contingency order to be able to change whenever :"HISD Athletics will tentatively schedule games for the fall, while awaiting detailed state guidance about high school sports from the University Scholastic League. Plans will be adjusted as COVID-19 conditions change."  

 

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/07/09/hisd-will-announce-its-plans-for-the-2020-2021-school-year-on-july-15-heres-what-we-know-so-far/

 

So, don't worry about getting those season tickets for awhile, ill winds are really starting to blow now.

 

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Good intentioned people bombard me with messages and tweets about things supposedly going down.  There is so much flying around out there, and I must admit,  I kind of let it overwhelm me awhile back. I am over it now, back to square one and Panther football.   To cipher through all of that and try to decide what is legit or not, is NOT what I do or want to do here.  

The amount of random persons who fly into the message box or text,  assuming because I somewhat keep up with sports, that maybe it's the world's most important thing to me is amazing to say the least.  I do this as a volunteer, I do not make one penny keeping this site updated.  Hey,  I can barely keep up to date Panther information on here.  In fact , wish I had a little more input from you guys on the future of this program, who is coming up in the ranks, names and such.  It would mean a lot and be a great help to me. Would even consider such a knowledgeable person to help moderate the site.  Look everyone, I wish the stuff I write about was important,  its not, but if it was, then maybe that would mean a  few more of the world's problems could be solved among us.   Ya'll all have a great day and Go Pack!

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The writing was on the wall once the numbers spiked. I'm sure more dominoes will fall soon. I'm guessing the season could be moved to just district games? That would give them a few extra weeks to see if things improve. I think thats the best possible scenario. 

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Have you given thought about, IF the HS season is moved to the spring, some teams may not have some of their best senior players?  There are many HS seniors who finish up in December,  graduate and enroll early to the college that has given them a scholarship, so to be eligible for their spring practice.  

Lufkin for instance.  WR Ja'Lynn Polk and  S Jerrin Thompson graduated early last year 2019, they enrolled at Texas Tech and Texas respectively in January.  If that were this year and HS football gets moved to the spring, then those two guys probably are already off to college.  Tough decision for some kids to stay or go.

This also applies to multi sport athletes, who must make a decision, what sport is best for them to play.  This probably affects mostly the 4A schools down, but it will cause an issue for some.  Example, your star QB, is also your star pitcher and star forward on the BB team and anchors the 4 X 4 relay team, with all those sports going at the same time.

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Great point. A lot of hard decisions coming down the line. Just a reminder to always appreciate our blessing and never take anything for granted.

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Here is an article that clears up a couple of things.  Houston has pushed back their start of school to Sept 7th, with online school only.  Face to Face in classroom teaching to begin on Oct 19th.  They are planning for fall sports, awaiting to see how things develop with the COVID in the next several weeks.   So, that is Austin ISD and Houston ISD who will begin school on Sept 7th.  Only Austin ISD has stated  that no on campus sports will occur before Sept 7th.      If this stands then there will be a definite delay to the start of football season and fall sports. At least to the end of September or first week of October.   You could still have somewhat of a full season by having only one scrimmage game , then having only the top three teams making the playoffs and district winners have a 1st week bye.  You still finish up the middle of January.  Winters in Texas are typically not that bad.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/07/09/hisd-will-announce-its-plans-for-the-2020-2021-school-year-on-july-15-heres-what-we-know-so-far/

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PA,

Yea getting to feel like it will not start on time or will not play all together. Can we just all sleep and wake up and 2020 be over with?  

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There is a little good news and memories for some young guys and the community.    Two fantastic years in a row for them and the Lufkin community.  Good to honor those kids.

https://www.ktre.com/2020/07/15/lufkin-little-league-heroes-impressed-with-new-downtown-mural/

Webxtra: Lufkin Little League heroes impressed with new downtown mural

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