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Lots of talk on twitter today about whether or not athletes who opt for online school will be allowed to play sports??? some districts have already said no... others yes! lots of things to consider. Carthage is one I remember who is not going to let those who choose remote learning participate. What  do you guys think?

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PA, 

wow the Dallas School Superintendent just told @GarrettHaake he's pretty sure there will be no Texas high school football this year

 

 From Twitter 

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19 minutes ago, pack98 said:

PA, 

wow the Dallas School Superintendent just told @GarrettHaake he's pretty sure there will be no Texas high school football this year

 

 From Twitter 

That is what they want, there is a reason behind it all.  it's going to backfire just like everything else has done.  It's a disservice to the school kids and especially the athletes if this happens.  If the rest of the State plays, you may see a bunch of transfers before August.  Just move Lancaster to the Longview - HP district and your set to go.

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4 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

That is what they want, there is a reason behind it all.  it's going to backfire just like everything else has done.  It's a disservice to the school kids and especially the athletes if this happens.  If the rest of the State plays, you may see a bunch of transfers before August.  Just move Lancaster to the Longview - HP district and your set to go.

I agree disservice but I think he is speaking in terms of the whole state not playing not Just Dallas. Either way I just hope the kids can play and keep safe. What a sad way to go out for seniors this year and last year if they cancel everything. I think they will play just not start the season until Nov or later in the year. 

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29 minutes ago, pack98 said:

I agree disservice but I think he is speaking in terms of the whole state not playing not Just Dallas. Either way I just hope the kids can play and keep safe. What a sad way to go out for seniors this year and last year if they cancel everything. I think they will play just not start the season until Nov or later in the year. 

If we start in November, going to be some cold games.  Although last year was unusually freezing weather in late October and early November.  Had to wear my ski thermals 5 games last year, it was a first for a Panther season.

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A survey of UIL Texas high school football coaches conducted by Dave Campbell’s Texas Football found that the majority are not confident that the season will start on time, and fewer believe that the season will be played in its entirety as scheduled.

 

 

Greg TepperGreg Tepper   DCTF Managing Editor   Jul 9 , 2020
 

The 2020 Texas high school football season is scheduled to kick off in seven weeks, but Texas high school football coaches are bracing for the possibility of a delayed, truncated or otherwise disrupted season.

A survey of UIL Texas high school football coaches conducted by Dave Campbell’s Texas Football found that the majority are not confident that the season will start on time, and fewer believe that the season will be played in its entirety as scheduled.

The survey of 515 head coaches, which allowed respondents to answer anonymously, asked a variety of questions about what the 2020 season will look like.

Will the season start on time?

When asked to rate their confidence that the season will begin as scheduled on a scale of 1-10 (10 being most confident), 61.1 percent of respondents rated their confidence at 5 or below. Many cited the growing uncertainty surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and the recent rise in cases of the virus, and the still unanswered questions about school in the fall.

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“There has been little information on how and what the fall will look like from administrations,” wrote one coach.

The leeriness of an on-time start was not unanimous — nearly 40 percent of coaches had an overall positive view that the season would kick off as scheduled on August 27, with most saying a return to everyday life is essential.

“I think we need normalcy back as quickly as possible, and we'll have some measures in place to make it happen,” one coach wrote.

Other coaches insisted that the risk is not worth the reward.

“The shutdown of Summer Strength & Conditioning programs for two weeks, even after the extensive COVID-19 protocols we have placed on our kids and sanitation of the facilities, leads me to these conclusions,” one coach, who rated his confidence of an on-time start at a 3, said. “We are going to have to risk athletes getting Coronavirus in order to play. This is not a risk we need to take. Even if there is a less than 1 percent chance an athlete could die from this, that is too great of a risk for a sport.”

Will the season be played in its entirety?

Similarly, the majority of coaches — 62.5 percent — were pessimistic about the idea of playing a full season as scheduled. Possibilities varied significantly from coach to coach, with many seeing a delay and other seeing a truncated schedule that eliminates non-district games.

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Others anticipated a season hindered by stops and starts.

“If there is a quick spike in cases, we will have to shut down,” one coach predicted.

But not all coaches felt that way, citing some studies that suggest that younger people are less likely to be seriously impacted by the virus.

“The science says this virus is really not affecting kids,” one coach said. “I think as we get back people will get more comfortable. A lot of this will go away about three months into school.”

Will there be fans in the stands?

If Texas high school football games are played, coaches expect there to be some spectators in the stadiums. Nearly 96 percent of coaches surveyed think there will be at least some fans in the stands for their games, though only 7 percent think they will be allowed to be have full capacity.

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A plurality of coaches — 42.5 percent — think there will be about 50 percent capacity at their games, while 23.5 percent of coaches think it’ll be less than half-full. Another 22.7 percent of coaches think the spectators will be limited to just families of players and coaches.

Should the UIL allow live broadcasts of Friday night Texas high school football games?

While Texas high school football coaches don’t see eye-to-eye on the schedule, one topic they’re pretty much in lockstep on: the UIL should allow Friday night games to be broadcast live.

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The UIL is considering lifting its longstanding ban on Friday night live broadcasts is for the 2020 season, and coaches are all for it — 88.9 percent of coaches think the ban should be lifted for the upcoming season.

What about playing in the spring?

A hot topic in Texas high school football circles lately is the idea of moving the football season to the spring. Coaches are split on the idea, with most weighing in against it.

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When asked about flipping the athletics calendar — that is, moving the fall sports to the spring and the spring sports to the fall — 54.4 percent of coaches disapproved against 45.6 percent approval. For those who voted no, the logistics were a key factor.

“When would we flip it back?” one coach said. “Football in the spring and then immediately again in the fall of 2021? How would flipping sports really help?”

For others, the concept was intriguing.

“Spring sports might be more manageable to play in the fall than football,” one coach wrote. “I would be in favor of anything that allows us to play.”

Coaches were more united in opposition of simply moving the football season to the fall — 80.6 percent of those surveyed didn’t like the idea of playing football in the spring while keeping the remainder of the athletics calendar the same.

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“It would cause chaos for all coaches since many coach more than one sport,” one coach said. “Students are multi-sport athletes, and that makes it a problem for them as well.”

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Where is your confidence level that high school and college football will start on time?

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34 minutes ago, PackAttack said:

Where is your confidence level that high school and college football will start on time?

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PA,

We have talked I think High School will not start on time. College will play later as well with only conference games the Big 10 started it and I expect the others will follow. This will allow them to start a little later.  I would even not be surprised if they cancel High School Football this year it sucks but I just don’t see it happening. 

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14 hours ago, pack98 said:

I agree disservice but I think he is speaking in terms of the whole state not playing not Just Dallas. Either way I just hope the kids can play and keep safe. What a sad way to go out for seniors this year and last year if they cancel everything. I think they will play just not start the season until Nov or later in the year. 

That’s why i really haven’t said much. Honestly not sure it’s going to be a season This year.  If the virus spreads at a school during the summer workouts or...scrimmage....whatever, then boom. We’ll have to wait another few months more than likely or they will cancel the whole season. Which is why i thought it was a bad idea for the governor to rush the reopening of things. I understood financially why they were doing it, but common sense said things would get worse. Now they see it was a mistake or at least i hope they do. 
 

Just not expecting a full season....if any season at all this year. Hate it because we have a solid team and talented offense returning. As of right now though, it’s just not looking good for a full season. But....maybe I’m wrong. Some people seem to think this will just go away at some point. I don’t know....But definitely not expecting a full season. Too many risks to think about. 

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Just read  junior colleges will play in the spring as well. The ACC, Pac-12 will also join the Big 10 and play  conference only. I imagine all colleges will do that and Notre Dame who plays 6 ACC games will play in the ACC completely this year. Going to be interesting year.  I even foresee if it continues no college bowl season most the semi finals and championship. We shall see. 

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7 hours ago, Pack007 said:

That’s why i really haven’t said much. Honestly not sure it’s going to be a season This year.  If the virus spreads at a school during the summer workouts or...scrimmage....whatever, then boom. We’ll have to wait another few months more than likely or they will cancel the whole season. Which is why i thought it was a bad idea for the governor to rush the reopening of things. I understood financially why they were doing it, but common sense said things would get worse. Now they see it was a mistake or at least i hope they do. 
 

Just not expecting a full season....if any season at all this year. Hate it because we have a solid team and talented offense returning. As of right now though, it’s just not looking good for a full season. But....maybe I’m wrong. Some people seem to think this will just go away at some point. I don’t know....But definitely not expecting a full season. Too many risks to think about. 

You know you hit the nail on the head.  With all of the discussion going on, right or left or whatever.  Bottom line,  we just don't know.  The one thing we do know is all people don't have an immunity to this virus, I don't think it's killing many people, but I guess it's the fear of what it has done in some cases and that we don't yet have a vaccine.  That in itself causes big uncertainties because the virus does not hit everyone in the same way. Then again, that's a real fact for most things in  life, nothing occurs with people the same way.  None of us can ever be all  on the same level,  the human genetic makeup just does not make that possible.   Some have natural anti-bodies that protect them from diseases, others do not.  Most people dying with COVID, with a few exceptions,  have had these pre existing health conditions, which COVID seems to capitalize on.  Uncertainties abound and human nature most of the time takes the better safe than sorry road,  especially when they don't understand what they are facing.  Schools do the same thing.  It's like these these spaceship movies, where an alien comes to earth and lands.  The alien comes out of the space craft , hold out his hand to speak and the earth people shoot them down without ever knowing why they came here in the first place.  Happens in almost every movie like that.  The Day the Earth Stood Still is one that come to mind, both the 1951 and 2009 versions. Humans are just naturally fearful of the unknown.  That's our problem.

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1 hour ago, pack98 said:

Just read  junior colleges will play in the spring as well. The ACC, Pac-12 will also join the Big 10 and play  conference only. I imagine all colleges will do that and Notre Dame who plays 6 ACC games will play in the ACC completely this year. Going to be interesting year.  I even foresee if it continues no college bowl season most the semi finals and championship. We shall see. 

They think cutting the number of exposure times will help?  It doesn't matter either way, whether you play 6 games or 10, your still getting enough exposure during those 6 games and practices leading up to those games to contact COVID.  What they are doing is a smoke and mirrors routine to appease some folks, so that they can have a football season.  It's not about isolation or limiting exposure time. Those schools have big TV contracts for conference games, it's about getting the real money available that comes from the conference game schedule. 

Herd immunity or natural immunity is what many are talking about right now, not knowing the future of a vaccine.  Herd immunity is very hard to achieve today because there too many humans on the planet. Herd immunity was the only option available 300 years ago , people had to let it run it's course. Downside was massive loss of life.  Not good.  There were no vaccines to help.  It has always been the survival of the fittest that comes out of a herd immunity situation.  During the Bubonic plague in Europe, the people who died from the disease, their bodies were burned, along with their home and all of their processions to try and kill the spread.  Very radical. Same thing happen in Europe and the U.S. with the Small Pox outbreak.  Until a vaccine was developed.  Humans have never done a good job of containing a pandemic.  Vaccine's are the best way to help prevent. Eventually, there will be a vaccine for COVID too.  This too shall pass and we will be the wiser for it,  it's just another chapter in human history.

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I figured it would come to this. Lufkin is tied to the hip with the Houston schools. That city is basically on fire right now. I don't see a scenario that allows them to move on with a season. There's just no way to properly have a season under current conditions and guidelines. If someone test positive then those who have come in contact with that person must quarantine. It would be impossible to have a season under those conditions.

You would have several players out at any given time. It's the same thing with schools. What happens when a student/teacher  in college or grade school test positive? Is the whole class to be quarantined for 14 days? Those are questions that have still not been answered. 

 

The problem is not so much the death rate, but the number of people who get sick and take up hospital beds. Which then affects others who need medical help. I don't have all the answers and glad I'm not in charge of having to do so. Just pray we can get through all of this. 

 

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LET'S TALK........watch from the 11:00 to the 26:00 minute mark for the really important discussion.  Lots up in the air.

 

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22 hours ago, timeout! said:

I figured it would come to this. Lufkin is tied to the hip with the Houston schools. That city is basically on fire right now. I don't see a scenario that allows them to move on with a season. There's just no way to properly have a season under current conditions and guidelines. If someone test positive then those who have come in contact with that person must quarantine. It would be impossible to have a season under those conditions.

You would have several players out at any given time. It's the same thing with schools. What happens when a student/teacher  in college or grade school test positive? Is the whole class to be quarantined for 14 days? Those are questions that have still not been answered. 

 

The problem is not so much the death rate, but the number of people who get sick and take up hospital beds. Which then affects others who need medical help. I don't have all the answers and glad I'm not in charge of having to do so. Just pray we can get through all of this. 

 

Exactly...I hate it, but I’m honestly not expecting the Pack to play this season. It doesn’t matter what Lufkin or other East Texas schools decide. Not even what the schools in the suburbs decide. If the Houston, Austin, San Antonio and Dallas superintendents decide to cancel their seasons, then the season is over. And that’s exactly what i see happening at some point, because it’s going to spread at some schools and we all know players/coaches will test positive for it. It’s already happening at colleges during their summer workouts. Of course it’s going to happen at the high school level. 
 

Like you said, it’s not just about the death rate. And I definitely don’t see this virus stuff going away anytime soon

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On 7/10/2020 at 11:51 AM, PackAttack said:

You know you hit the nail on the head.  With all of the discussion going on, right or left or whatever.  Bottom line,  we just don't know.  The one thing we do know is all people don't have an immunity to this virus, I don't think it's killing many people, but I guess it's the fear of what it has done in some cases and that we don't yet have a vaccine.  That in itself causes big uncertainties because the virus does not hit everyone in the same way. Then again, that's a real fact for most things in  life, nothing occurs with people the same way.  None of us can ever be all  on the same level,  the human genetic makeup just does not make that possible.   Some have natural anti-bodies that protect them from diseases, others do not.  Most people dying with COVID, with a few exceptions,  have had these pre existing health conditions, which COVID seems to capitalize on.  Uncertainties abound and human nature most of the time takes the better safe than sorry road,  especially when they don't understand what they are facing.  Schools do the same thing.  It's like these these spaceship movies, where an alien comes to earth and lands.  The alien comes out of the space craft , hold out his hand to speak and the earth people shoot them down without ever knowing why they came here in the first place.  Happens in almost every movie like that.  The Day the Earth Stood Still is one that come to mind, both the 1951 and 2009 versions. Humans are just naturally fearful of the unknown.  That's our problem.

Sometimes it’s better to be fearful, especially when kids are involved. 
 

I understand what some are saying and i also want to see the pack play again this season, even with the bad taste that was left in my mouth from what happened at Abe last year. But I just don’t see it. At least not right now. Because nothing has really slowed down. 
 

I think we all miss sports and I really want to see my tigers defend our title. I also want to see Jordan in his senior season with Caleb on offense. Just can’t see that all happening right now.

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Now, the Texas governor is talking about another possible shut down.  There are folks in this State who do not want kids going back to school, they don't want fall sports.  They like the hiding and the disruptions.  Those people also highlight to the extreme COVID cases that are happening.  More testing more cases show up.  More open businesses, more people moving around, equal more cases.  That's the way it works.  That should have been expected, the media acts surprised, it's their way.  Anyone do the math?   Add up all the past and present cases, the deaths that have occurred so far over the past 5 months.  The percentage is still a .0075% chance of getting COVID.  That is a very low number.    

This with people going out everywhere, celebrating Memorial Day and Independence Day, Demonstrating and Protesting,  people and families still traveling and going on vacations and Young folks having large COVID parties for $$$$ , to see who gets sick first.  One of them, a 30 year old,  died Friday from one of those parties.   Why are we surprised or freaking out that there are more cases, we are no longer locked in our homes.  That's why.

News media says the hospitals are full, many hospital employees interviewed say that is not the truth. It's not true in Lufkin.   My hope is they keep doing these tactics because it will backfire in the long run.

There is not going to be any fall football as we know it, it won't start on time , if at all.  They may move fall sports back to October, may move to spring.  That is a whole different set of difficulties to deal with,  a total mess for many HS athletes who will then have to choose what sport they play, or maybe they are not there at all to play football, because they have already headed off to college for spring ball.  The may cancel the whole mess. There is NO guarantee that the COVID cases will drop off by October or Spring. Maybe by Spring, enough people will be exposed so that it will all dwindles down.  No guarantee.  What is the acceptable limit or minimum to allow school to open up?,  do the percentages need to go down to .0000075% , maybe zero cases??   How do we still have millions of flu cases and deaths in this Country even though we have a Flu vaccine available?  Most places give free flu shots too, so it's not a money issue.    Why would a COVID vaccine be any different?, and there are fewer cases of COVID cases and deaths than the regular FLU????   Texas had about 10,890 deaths from the FLU in 2018.    Texas deaths from COVID in 5 months is about 3200 , which puts our present COVID on a pace of  approximately 7700 for the year,  this with with no vaccine available.  

How many people have run around, gone to work, gone to school or a football game with FLU systems?  Even the FLU vaccine doesn't stop the FLU from happening. We don't panic, wear mask, check temperatures at the door, close businesses and isolate entire populations over the flu.   People need to start thinking for themselves, checking the statistics  about all this and stop listening to hyped up news outlets and for people themselves being more responsible than they have been since Memorial Day.  The increase we see today is from Memorial Day outings.  The July 4th increase will happen the middle of August.  Then the Labor Day increase will happen the middle of October.  Perfect timing in certain peoples minds, cause they know Americans are not going to stay inside and stop associating completely.   If you want to be controlled and told how to live over such flimsy statistics, then that is your choice, it is not going to be mine.  I've been around lots of folks without a mask, I shake hands and have moved and travel around freely where allowed since March.  I wear a mask where requested to do so,  keep my hands clean. I have no problem with any of those request.  Other than that, I have not been in isolation.

 

 

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Idk what to think. I honestly believe it’s exaggerated for obvious political reasons. Which are all stupid imo. But, then again, I understand how dangerous it can be. My family and I, along with many other people we know haven’t been isolated much at all and we’ve been fine so far. I’ve been to 3 different states since early March including The Florida keys in mid-late June. It amazes me that I can do things of that sort and not contract the virus, yet other people can’t walk in a grocery store without getting it. I guess everybody’s body is different. Like the flu. I’m 30 years old and haven’t had the flu since I was 14. My youngest kid gets it about every other year, but me, my wife and other 2 kids never do. Viruses go around. It’s life. Some get it, some do not. You can’t shut the world down. I’m all for following mask orders or whatever they think needs to be done to help. But I’m not for shutting crap down and stopping life. We have to rock on. 

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On 7/8/2020 at 7:13 PM, PackAttack said:

Hard for me to even have an opinion, except to say there have already been so many changes and accepted changes to normal procedures.   The first problem I see is the TEA is allowing each school to make separate decisions on this matter.  There should be a direct standard set by the State or TEA.   Personally, it would not matter to me if they attend school in person or are taught online in order to play.  The only hitch in that scenario is they can not practice or play the game together online.  So, if the latter is true, then attending school would be the normal expectation too.  I talked myself right into that answer.

I want to see HS football come about on time and see a full season too.  We all want to get back to something familiar, with a  normal feeling.  That is my hope and preference.  With that said, unless we see the COVID cases continue to drop off in the next 6 weeks,  we are not going to start a football season on time,  maybe an abbreviated schedule or maybe not at all.  What about playing a game every two weeks,  each team on alternating weeks, that would cover the 14 day quarantine, if needed. Crazier things have been proposed.

If there is another jump in cases when all the kids go back to school in August-September, how is that received?  There will be, you knows that's true.   In liberal leaning areas, they will shut the doors quicker than a fat boy running to a cake buffet.

There will be some spiking when the kids get back together.    Do the authorities react like they did in the spring? or continue to function as they are right now?,  only requiring mask, sanitizer and social distancing.   When you think about the scope of all of football from HS to College and PRO, so many variables in difference places, hard to imagine how this will all work especially if several school districts decide to not play in the fall.  The rest will follow like a bunch of lemmings.  School districts live in fear of lawsuits and the feelings of a few disgruntled folks.   The least path of resistance approach.  Better safe than sorry, even if the statistics don't support such a move.

It's already started.  The Ivy league schools cancelled their fall football and sports.  Angelina College cancelled their fall soccer season.  The San Antonio area superintendent has been talking about not playing football since early spring.  He has already set the table.  The Dallas ISD and Houston ISD have swirled the idea around, however they do not have many strong football programs in their districts.  It will be when the suburban districts in those areas start laying down,  that is when the domino fall will begin.

Personally,  I want to see football in the fall.  If they cancel it, there nothing any of us can do.  Just keep on waiting for reasonable minds to stop shaking in their boots.  After December 1st you will be surprised how quick all this goes away.😉

I noticed you interjected a political phase ....liberal leaning areas, conservatives and liberals play sports ....right. This should be all about the safety of the kids., nothing more I think 

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We all that's going on ,I think we just need too keep any political  opinion too ourselves. I don't know how many here have Med Degrees ...mind is not so I tend too leave it too the experts. This is a football forum and I would love too see football this fall but I don't think I will be coming too Abe, I will listen too big Nasty this year....But what I do read is this is nothing like the flu because of the lasting effects yet too be determinded from covid-19. We see enough politics on tv,so lets leave it there. 

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3 hours ago, Packfan49 said:

We all that's going on ,I think we just need too keep any political  opinion too ourselves. I don't know how many here have Med Degrees ...mind is not so I tend too leave it too the experts. This is a football forum and I would love too see football this fall but I don't think I will be coming too Abe, I will listen too big Nasty this year....But what I do read is this is nothing like the flu because of the lasting effects yet too be determinded from covid-19. We see enough politics on tv,so lets leave it there. 

Not being political, thus the short mild left leaning reference, which is true.   Those areas have taken a much more let's shut it down approach, than areas more right leaning.  It's an obvious divide that is noticeable to any average person out there.  Yes, this site is about Lufkin Panther football, this is what I mostly want to talk about  here and I have been clear that I don't know where this virus situation all goes.  What I have expressed is mostly information and thoughts from the David Campbell's Texas Football group.  They seem to have a pulse on the way things are going right now.  What coaches are thinking and so on.  In fact this week they expressed that the winds to play and start on time,  were blowing in the wrong direction currently.  

They are not medical folks, neither am I and you know there are a bunch of different stories out there.  Sometimes, I think it best not to listen to any of it and use your own common sense for the environment each of us are living, because everything could totally change tomorrow.  This COVID is not a right or left disease, it does not distinguish between whatever beliefs anyone may have.  Most cases are mild, but the people who get the deadly form of it, never forget it. If they survive, they are left with other problems.

Everyone keep an eye out for what is going on.  As much as I want football and kids back in school, safety for all and getting our lives back to normal is more important.  Go Pack!!

 

 

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I think those outlets picked up on it because it's coming form Texas. People know how passionate Texas is about football. So if it's in doubt here then there's a good chance schools in other places may follow. Again he was just given an opinion that many experts would agree with, have we not seen other sports shut down at various levels? 

Not sure what the guys salary,  job benefits or being caught up in corruption has to do with him giving his opinion. Certainly not condoning anything he may be guilty of. We have corrupt people in leadership positions that are tasked with making decisions and giving recommendations every day in this country. So I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on that having any bearing on whether or not we should listen to him on this particular issue. I don't think he is saying anything many superintendents are not already thinking.

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Ugh...I don’t want to go back and forth on this subject. This is a football forum. However, when people come on here saying stuff they don’t know anything about it rubs me the wrong way. The media isn’t always truthful and certain networks have been proven to be biased in regards to politics.......I think we all know this. That still doesn’t change the fact that this virus is very serious.
 

If you have ever seen someone with it or have known someone that had died from it, you would know exactly how serious it is. Not sure who told you the Lufkin hospitals aren’t full, because the units with the covid patients at the one I’m familiar with are always full. Always. So that’s definitely not the case at that facility. 
 

I Think for myself and don’t just get my info from news outlets....or fb and some of these political nuts around town. I’ve seen how this stuff works and if the doctors i know and trust with several years of experience, including my sister tell me this is far worse than the flu....then that’s what i will believe. I don’t need a million people dying a day to tell me how bad this stuff is. I’ve seen it and i actually get info from credible people that have to deal with it every day. Everything isn’t fake news or just about politics. That’s all I’m saying. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, Pack007 said:

Ugh...I don’t want to go back and forth on this subject. This is a football forum. However, when people come on here saying stuff they don’t know anything about it rubs me the wrong way. The media isn’t always truthful and certain networks have been proven to be biased in regards to politics.......I think we all know this. That still doesn’t change the fact that this virus is very serious.
 

If you have ever seen someone with it or have known someone that had died from it, you would know exactly how serious it is. Not sure who told you the Lufkin hospitals aren’t full, because the units with the covid patients at the one I’m familiar with are always full. Always. So that’s definitely not the case at that facility. 
 

I Think for myself and don’t just get my info from news outlets....or fb and some of these political nuts around town. I’ve seen how this stuff works and if the doctors i know and trust with several years of experience, including my sister tell me this is far worse than the flu....then that’s what i will believe. I don’t need a million people dying a day to tell me how bad this stuff is. I’ve seen it and i actually get info from credible people that have to deal with it every day. Everything isn’t fake news or just about politics. That’s all I’m saying. 
 

 

Letts play football!

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Personally, I am at the point of if we have football fine, if the start of the season is delayed or moved to the spring, fine.  If it is cancelled altogether, fine.  I don't make that decision, I can find something else to do with my time, like I have been doing the past 5 months.

I'm so frustrated with the whole mess that has been happening with COVID and all the disruptions it has caused throughout the Country.  I will continue to attempt in keeping everyone informed about Lufkin Panther football the best way possible,  and maybe what the  State, UIL or Lufkin ISD is deciding to do through their statements.  That is all I'm going to do. I will delete my comment on the DISD, it has no bearing on anything.

Right now, everything is out of our hands, it pisses me off, but that's just the way it is right now. 

Don't care one way or another what all the "powers that be" decide to do.  I don't like how the system works, but there's nothing any of us can do about any of it.  

Sorry if I offended anyone, we'll leave it at that and move on with whatever is happening with Lufkin Panther Football.

 

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Now,  I have it out of my system.

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